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Increase Design Condition of a Pump

03/02/2011 6:43 AM

I have been requested by the plant if the design condtion of a certain pump can be increased. My question is how to calculate a pump if it is suitable for an increased design condition ?. The API 610 does not mention anything about pump rating, and how to assess the impact in case design condtion is changed.

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Re: Increase Design Condition of a Pump

03/02/2011 7:32 AM

Contact the pump manufacturer for advice.

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03/02/2011 7:34 AM

It depend on the pump.

Assuming that it is a centrifugal pump.

Sometimes pumps are sold with a reduced impeller. In that case you can increase the size for better performance,

The speed can also be increased.

In both cases within limits of the pump and you will need more power to drive it.

A new pump set selected for the duty may be your best option.

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03/02/2011 8:17 AM

I can only assume that, like most other posts on this forum, this is your first encounter with a pump.

Let the guessing games begin...

Again, this forum seems to stumble on English grammar and syntax.

What exactly do you mean by: " the design condition of a certain pump can be increased" ?

I can only assume that this is a centrifugal pump.

Centrifugal pumps operate on a "pump curve" which is based upon a particular impeller speed, casing size, impeller size etc. The resistance to flow defines a "System Curve" which can be plotted, intersects the pump curve and results in the operating point of the pump.

If you need increased flow or head, and you do not want to change the piping system system downstream of the pump, you must make the pump "bigger" (replace the pump with a larger unit) or possibly increase the pump speed ( new motor?)

Banu, we can only guess at your problem based on your limited amount of information given

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03/02/2011 2:15 PM

Just out of curiosity why does everyone automatically assume its a centrifugal pump? Maybe it's a gear pump, or a variable displacement piston pump, or a vane pump, screw pump etc etc etc... To the OP: Please provide us with more information so we may be able to direct you to the correct information for your project.

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03/02/2011 2:30 PM

He mentions API610, which is a standard for centrifugal pumps. The equivalent for gear pumps is API676.

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03/02/2011 11:38 PM

You mean, pump design? Technically,like impellers and the other stuff, or this just a increase in rating conditions for changes of delivery or intended usage.(Pump selection)

If this is only intended for change in Q volumetric rate and Head, use Hydraulic Power of the condition. Like P=ρgQH add up pump efficiency and pressure losses due to conduit friction there. You should get your pump rating for the new pump.

However, if you mean really is pump design like impellers, volutes and casing design, consult the book for pump design. There you should see the pumps in their design parameters.

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03/03/2011 2:12 AM

I am going to assume that "design condtion of a certain pump can be increased." you mean increase to flow rate.

As stated you need to study the pump curve, and that will tell you the following;

1. the Operating range

2. the discharge pressure

3. Best Efficiency point

4. HP per stage

The curve also will tell you the pump rating, either in Barrels per day or Cubes per day.

A typical pump curve for a pump.. any questions get back to me.

As for calculating if the pump is suitable for an increased of the design condition, most pump, subject to manufacturer's spec's and approval can by changing the motor RPM can have the Operating Range altered, however by using the Laws of Affinity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_laws

you can calculate the new flow rate etc by using these simple calculations.. or by using the manufacturers pump curves as below

Once you have studied the relevant points AND contacted the pump manufacturer then you will have your answer.

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03/03/2011 3:18 AM

get the pump curves from the manufacturer and you will know weather its possible or not by looking at the current operating point and the point you want to get to on the curves.

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03/03/2011 4:41 AM

Well put, brich. Just a few points to add (some of which repeats what has already been said).

Assuming again that increase in design condition means increase in flowrate, which is the most likely meaning, then you should first check the pump documentation (or nameplate, or manufacturer) to see if the impeller is trimmed, and could be re-fitted with a larger diameter impeller (as mentioned by Hendrik). Otherwise, the only option is to increase the pump speed. Check with the pump documentation or manufacturer to find the max. rated pump speed.

The biggest limiting factor will be the motor rating. If it is sized in accordance with API610 specs (abs.kw +15%/20%/25%, depending on size), then it might not have enough in hand to accommodate much, or any, increase in flow (considering the increase in absorbed power will be the cube of the increase in speed, see Affinity Laws above). Follow brich's recommendations above to calcúlate the new absorbed power, not forgetting that an increase in flowrate is also likely to result in an increase in system head (so you also need to refer to the system curve), and allow the minimum margin in accordance with API610 (I assume that is what you are working to?). Even if the motor is sized for End of Curve and max. impeller dia, there still might not be much room for an increase, especially if a VFD is going to be used (normally constant torque below the rated speed and decreasing torque above). If you have to change the motor, it might also be necessary to change couplings, baseplates, etc. So a new pump might be a better option.

If our assumption is incorrect and the increase in design condition is not flowrate, then it is most likely to be system pressure or temperature. In both cases the pump documentation (or nameplate) should tell you what the pump is rated for.

Whatever the case, you really should be discussing this with the pump manufacturer in the first instance.

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03/03/2011 5:02 AM

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03/03/2011 7:09 AM

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Re: Increase Design Condition of a Pump

03/03/2011 7:30 AM

Thanks all for your advices and suggestions, the initial design condition of the connected piping is 82 barg and 80 °C, due to changed process condition, they would like to rerate the pressure to 98 barg, temperature remains at 80 °C. We can do the assessment of the piping components including the flange, using ASME VIII, whether or not suitable for the rerate condition, however not clear how to assess the suitability of the pump for the rerate condition.

As advised by PWSlack, we will request the manufacturer to look for this rerate condition.

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03/04/2011 5:53 AM

I see, just check the Q, H, RPM rating, given on the manufacturers curves for the pump.

Pressure is inversely proportional to flow capacity, while flow capacity and pressure is directly proportional to rpm.

I could not well assessed the condition because the configuration is not given in figures or diagram. Its either 98barg is like static pressure head something like that or the pressure of the discharge side of the pump at operation. Its not clear.

But if that pressure you mean to say is at line at discharge side of the pump, you must look at the pump curve of you pump (at Q-flow, H-head, rpm) relationships.

Definitely in this case, if your pump is in range with the Q and the P in the curve, you have to only increase the rpm(increase motor power rating & add up step-up transmission). But, if its not on the curve, you must buy a new bigger pump.

see page 7 (this Q, H, rpm pump curve) http://www.eninepump.com/zhichi/technical_6.pdf

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03/03/2011 12:42 PM

If you are planning to increase speed, you can use the affinity laws to estimate changes in pumping capacity (or reverse to estimate the changes in specific speeds required to achieve the needed pumping capacity). However, seals and a few otehr components might not be sustainable at significantly increased speeds, you would need to talk to the manufacturer about the pump specifications. On the other hand, the majority of water pumps we use in our pump station designs are essentially the same pumps, and the motor speeds/impellers are the main difference.

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