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Waterproofing a Video Watch

09/17/2011 4:39 PM

I recently got myself a "waterproof" video watch. I have managed to get most of it water tight apart from the time adjustment crown. I know that the pressure at 4m below the surface of the water is 20 psi. How would I get the crown to resist this pressure?

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09/17/2011 5:00 PM

Your statement doesn't make sense. You say you got a waterproof watch, but then proceed to tell us how you tried to make it "waterproof". Explain in more detail please.

It would also help if we knew the make and model of the watch.

As far as your calculation goes, 4mH2O = 4 x 39.37inH2O/mH2O = 157.48inH2O.

157.48 x 1.028(specific gravity of seawater) = 161.89inH2O.

161.89inH2O x 0.036psi/inH2O = 5.838psi, not 20psi.

In light of this, I would try to think of another screen name, since hydrogen is even lighter than air.

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09/17/2011 5:23 PM

How about double zip lock bags?

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09/17/2011 5:51 PM

Try to allow less hydrogen to get in your head, then all will be OK.

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09/17/2011 6:26 PM

The watch was described as being waterproof. It has no make and model and uses screw on rubber sealed caps for the usb port and microphone. I connected a tube to the microphone hole, put the watch underwater, and applied a small amount of air pressure to the tube and as I expected, loads of bubbles came out from various places. They said it was waterproof to 30 meters! Here is where I got 20 psi from: http://www.calctool.org/CALC/other/games/depth_press I used depth at meters and set it to 4 and I used pressure at psi and got 20.

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09/17/2011 6:57 PM

I'd like to think you are kidding, but I guess not.

The device is sealed against EXTERNAL WATER pressure, not INTERNAL AIR pressure.

Pay attention now. Air is thinner than water, it will find its way out of devices which may well be perfectly sealed against water intrusion.

You probably blew every seal in the watch when you, "applied a small amount of air pressure" to it. How much pressure was it?

Throw that one away and buy another one.

Then, leave it alone.

Don't take offense. It's just that I have had two 7 year olds and a 5 year old screaming and running through the house for the last 4 hours. I can only kill the two that live here, the other one has to be sent home intact.

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09/17/2011 7:39 PM

I'd like to give you two ga's, one for the watch response, the other for the Grand Fatherly restraint...lol

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09/17/2011 8:20 PM

Real licorice tastes good and has a mild sedative effect; Grandma always had some for us......

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09/17/2011 8:25 PM

I find that, for me, tequila is much more effective than licorice.

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09/17/2011 8:27 PM

Splitting the difference: anisette (e.g., Pernod). Or for the adventurous, absinthe.

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09/17/2011 8:32 PM

Ouzo.............with roasted coffee beans on top.

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09/17/2011 7:19 PM

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/other/games/depth_press I used depth at meters and set it to 4 and I used pressure at psi and got 20.

Actually, if you are going for 2 significant figures, it would be 21psi (20.5275 rounded).

The answers there are given in absolute pressure, as should be when figuring multiple conversions, so "Let the browser beware."

You haven't answered the question: "How much pressure was it?" (by Lyn). If it was over 5.8psi gauge pressure (=20.5 absolute pressure), chances are you ruined the watch.

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09/17/2011 7:46 PM

Your first calc of 4mH2O ≈ 5.7 psid was better.

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09/17/2011 8:41 PM

Wow. I reread the OP and found that there was no mention of the water type; I just made anassout ofuandme'd...

Do you understand though, the OP's misunderstanding between gauge and absolute pressure?

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09/17/2011 8:54 PM

Yeah, psig vs psig vs psid. But I don't get 20 or 21 out of any of these.

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09/18/2011 12:14 PM

So what do you get? And please, show your work.

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09/18/2011 3:24 PM

Apologies for typo; I meant psia vs psig vs psid, of which the last is most relevant.

At 4m submergence, the seawater pressure ≈ 5.85 psig ≈ 20.54 psia. Unless the watch leaks, its internal pressure is atmospheric ≈ 14.69 psia. This gives ~5.85 psid, which is what the stem seal needs to withstand.

Maybe replace a tiny O-ring and/or case gasket?

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09/18/2011 11:25 PM

I can't say what the solution is, but our numbers match.

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09/17/2011 6:50 PM

You got ripped off. I've never seen a watch advertised as waterproof, only water resistant...................go with the zip lock bags.

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09/18/2011 12:03 AM

Look here

I've owned several dive watches over my 63 years.

I'm especially fond of a French made dive watch I bought in the early 60's that has worked flawlessly since then. Except, oddly enough, that it refused to work while I was in Vietnam. Go figure.

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09/18/2011 3:07 PM

Still sh1ty?

(My Seiko never had a problem even to ~200ft, but of course it mechanical and analogue)

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09/18/2011 10:10 PM

LOL. Yeah, I guess. Dien Bien Phu... Dang watch stopped both times I entered the country and worked again both times I left.

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09/17/2011 10:51 PM

Has anyone though about atm pressure that would be inside of the watch helping to resist the force of the water trying to enter.

Assume 1atm(14.6959psia) in the watch resisting the force of the water 5.58psig plus the 1atm on top of the water gives 20.5275pisa.

Which comes back to the 5.58psig of water trying to get in.

Just my though's...oh I did go to the op's site, it gave seawater and I also used 4m.

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09/18/2011 7:30 PM

I believe it is the extrusion of the o-ring that is preventing the water from entering the video

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09/17/2011 11:47 PM

Er...beg pardon...

What is a video watch? One on which you can watch videos, when you are not wanting to know the time ?

What does one do with a water-proof video watch ? Watch videos while 20m under water...

Rather a confusing scenario, i am sure i have misunderstood 'Video watch'.

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09/19/2011 9:09 AM

Video watches are becoming more popular. Yes, actually, you CAN get one which plays movies....grin!

There are several varieties out there. Check THESE out. (gotta LOVE ThinkGeek!)

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09/18/2011 10:10 AM

It was a small amount of pressure that I applied with my mouth, so it will probably be around 2 psi. It is called a video watch because it has a camera in it. Because of this, it is quite thick and big.

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09/19/2011 4:14 AM

It's also knackered - now. Recycle it and find a new one.

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09/19/2011 6:55 AM

It is not, I removed all the black paint from the watch and I coated it in clear varnish. It resists pressure very well now.

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09/19/2011 10:17 AM

Take off the watch, and put it in a water proof acrylic container, and put in on a lanyard around your neck, and then jump in and enjoy! Why buy a "waterproof" watch for a diver's watch if it not a diver's watch. Quit being a cheap skate.

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