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How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/21/2011 12:31 PM

I'm just doing some self learning and am trying to build an electronic circuit. I have bought the chips that I think I need and am trying to get them onto a breadboard to test, but the chip I have bought has horizontal pins coming out of the side and not the vertical ones that will fit in my breadboard. I've done a bit of a google etc search, but am not sure of the terminology or which standard words will get a response. I think I'm looking for a DIL socket, but am getting a bit lost. The chip in question is a CD4028 with a pitch of 0.05" between the pins. Any help with sourcing the connection in the UK would be appreciated. Maplins don't do one.

p.s.My mac is playing up and I can't upload a picture.

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Re: How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/21/2011 12:47 PM

What you need is a zero insertion force socket. Check here and see if you can find what you need.

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Re: How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/21/2011 12:48 PM

The only CD4028 chips I saw listed are the standard DIP package with 0.1" lead spacing that will fit a proto-board. So I could not locate from your part designation which package design you actually have but it sounds like an SOIC surface mount chip. There are adapter boards that allow a SOIC chip to be used in a prototype board; Augat, Vector and others make them. You have to solder the chip to the adapter.

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Re: How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/21/2011 1:31 PM

Sounds like a SMT (Surface Mount Technology) chip and not a DIP (Dual In-Line) chip.

One trick is (if you can find one) is to get a DIP socket and glue the chip to the top of the socket, then hand solder each lead to the socket.

Likewise, you can get some header pins (see attached) and do the same thing.

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Re: How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/21/2011 1:53 PM

Try this site. They have lots of adapter sockets. I used to breadboard prototypes all the time (still do some) and ran into the same problem from time to time. They actually make that chip in a DIP series as well. Could you return what you have and get the DIP version?

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10/21/2011 2:54 PM

Yep, that's the type of adapter I was talking about. GA

Just to lazy (ahem) busy to provide a link this time.

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Re: How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/21/2011 2:38 PM

Does it look like this?

If it does, it is a surface-mount chip. If you get some solder paste, you can use that and a toaster oven to solder it on to an adapter board (per redfred).

For a great tutorial on how to do this, go here:

http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encoder/200006/oven_art.htm

I actually have prototyped several different adapters. When I get home tonight, I'll see if I can post some photos of them.

Good luck.

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10/21/2011 2:57 PM

Nice tutorial.

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Re: How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/21/2011 11:38 PM

Yep, many chips of older, thru the board forms are still available, but in surface mount fine pitch form, not really meant for human handling. Rather for automatic placing and soldering into place.

The same is for learning. Once the the surface mount chip is on a DIL adapter, people with normal hand - eye coordination can take it from there. One caveat: the adapter adds wire length and capacitance to every lead. Can cause trouble over 50 MHz, or so.

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Re: How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/22/2011 5:03 AM

What you have is a sop pin whereas you have a dip board, you can sometimes solder the sop pins onto the board depending on whether the solder points are on the side you want. If you can find a part No for a dil socket, I have a few thousand sockets I could look through.

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10/22/2011 5:31 AM

Lots of good advice here, most ideas would work just fine, but why bother? I would only do this on a Sunday when I need the chip in an emergency.....

The single chip (quantity even cheaper) costs less that $0.50 US, just put the chip to one side and buy a new one with a DIP layout. Buy 10 and spend less than $5.00!!

Always buy more than you need of any cheap components, for example I always buy resistors in packs of 100 for example, even though I may only need one!!! Buying from a good but cheap supplier (I use Pollin in Germany for all standard parts and Conrad for specials), Pollin charges less that US$2.00 for 100 quality metal 1/8 watt Resistors....

The Post is more than that!!!! So I buy always in quantity....add in other components to make it worthwhile....

With regards to "Breadboarding", there are many tutorials on websites such as YouTube and many others. there is even software around that allows a finished and tested circuit to be converted to a PCB in many different ways, or to a schematic, even Eagle CAD compatible ones.......it does so much and is open source and completely free.

Look here:-

http://fritzing.org/

Look on YouTube with the word "Fritzing" and there you will find many video tutorials explaining many things, including how to go from a Breadboard layout to an SMD PCB!!! Quite something!!

I hope my comments help you further.

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10/22/2011 1:11 PM

GA! I was thinking about making the same suggestion.

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10/22/2011 5:37 AM

Depending on the type of CD4028 you have, why not buy a dil chip? a BE is 47pence from Farnell.

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Re: How to Attach a Chip to a Breadboard

10/22/2011 4:39 PM

This is the picture of it. From the end. The pitch is 0.050". It is so small that I can hardly see the gap between the legs, so I think the best advice is to buy the proper chip with the vertical legs. I've seen some pictures of the ones that will be ok.

I will put it down to a learning experience, which is part of the reason for doing this in the first place.

Thanks for everyones input. I appreciate it.

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10/24/2011 5:59 AM

Good Answers to Andy and Mikerho:-

Here's a link to the UK Digikey web site:-

http://search.digikey.com/uk/en/products/CD4028BE/296-2045-5-ND/67273

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