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Has anyone any spare voltrons to send txmedic3338? Will they go via CR4's personal messaging system?

(If it didn't sound so eerily familiar....)

It would be dead cool like if u could lose the wires and do it all wirelessly. Like send the voltrons to the other side of the world on the internet.

No need!

If we were to just drill holes directly through the Earth (a theory proposed by Dr. Arnie Saccnuson) of the right diameter we could let sunlight pass from the day side of the Earth right through to the night side of the planet where it could be collected with mirrors and disseminated to local solar panels.

Devilishly simple.

So we wouldn't need ohmperes or voltrons?

I'm sorry, but that is just not acceptable. Before you know it, foreign aliens would come down the tubes, and, be able to go anywhere they damned well please because all of the tubes would go to the middle of the Earth where there would be a big hole. I bet the unfriendlies would shoot rockets and stuff at us.

Then there is territorial jurisdiction.....

But the most telling is that all the water in the oceans would fall down the holes in the seven seas, it would put out the earthfire and we would not be able to "by ship forever go to the lands of Aman, to the west beyond the Great Sea. There are the lands Valinor and Eldamar, and the isle Tol Eressea." it would all be tragically beyond my reach.

But think of the benefits - when it rains here in the UK (as it usually does!), the Australians will get wet. Well worth the risk, methinks.

Okay, ummm, I get it about the holes being cheaper and stuff...

But all this hole drilling and raining is like, moving the water from one side to the other but what if the ocean saltwater got mixed in with it because that would conduct more electricity and then we would not need the wires anymore so it would be cheaper? Is that why everyone wants holes instead of wires?

Plus I know that it takes more shampoo and conditioner to get out the salt water after the beach so shampoo is going to be like way more expensive so we prolly don't want the holes anyway.

The part I don't get is how come the water would not fall out the bottom like where the deserts are and why does my teacher keep calling the bottom part the waistland when her waist is around the fat part in the middle like around where the equalizer goes through stuff like Africa?

And every time they show Africa on TV it is always totally hot and sunny so could we just put the solar stuff there and not have to run the wires as far?

What I'd like to know is how threads like this get started by an individual with 102 posts and 15 good answers??

You wrote, "Before you know it, foreign aliens would come down the tubes, and, be able to go anywhere they damned well please..."

No, they would only go to the USA because its the only country where they do not have to worry about being deported. All they have to do is claim that they are younger than 16. How would you know if they weren't, are you going to cut them in half and count the rings?

Besides, Al Gore said it was millions of degrees just below the Earth's crust. They would not only get a horrible sun burn but roasted on the way through.

Aliens only land in Missouri or Kansas USA anyway - never somewhere interesting like Blairgowrie in Scotland.

If we could drill holes through the earth, we could use geothermal energy to generate power for the survivors of the catastrophic explosions that would occur as a result of drilling holes through the earth.

OP, maybe just have your friend in India e-mail you some of his sunlight.

Because once we power the giant wires that go around the earth, all the compass will quit working and we won't rotate anymore.

Speaking of the earth rotating, why can't we just attach a wheel to a stationary satellite, so that it would rub against the spinning earth, and use the wheel to turn a generator to produce free electricity?

Wouldn't belt-drive be better?

Duuuuude! The wires would cost like a zillion dollars ! Where would we find a wire that long??? A good chunk of the electricity would be lost in transmission.....if not all...

we would be very rich here in chile selling copper by the way what sort of loss per mile of high voltage does occur

I thought he invented the internet so he could Google sequestering so he could steal claim to have invented it.

How about starting a continuous loop of cargo ships full of solar-charged batteries from one side of the world to another. Cheaper than stringing wire, don't you think?

Put simply it wouldn't work due to prohibitive cost and power losses due to the great distances involved. Power transfer between states, islands and countries is common today but as the distance increases the costs and losses increase until it becomes uneconomical (as is the case trying to transfer power half way around the world).

Solar has some pretty big problems still (see previous threads on CR4 for more information) but is getting better, but is not the best way to generate power at the moment.

Solar panels in space have been considered a number of times (using microwave beams to wirelessly transmit the solar power generated in orbit back to a base station on the ground), but again the cost is just too high at the moment. Solar reflectors in orbit have also been considered, but more for increasing sunshine hours to increase crop growth.

ohmperes or voltrons or whatever

What, no jigawatts?

and so there would have to be solar panels only where it never rains like in the desert because the panels get totally rusted by rain or something?

Actually we prefer occasional rain on solar panels as it helps to clean them, dust, sand, bird droppings, etc build up on the solar panels over time and reduce the amount of power they can generate, so rain is a good thing (and another reason why putting solar panels in the desert is a pain).

On another matter your writing style has kind of changed since your last posts, you haven't suffered another workplace related injury have you (perhaps to your head).

_{Jack - The voice of reason (today) in this mad, mad world.}

Assume you did your best in concerings how it is possible that the world negineers didn't solve the energy crisis with a simple iPhone app.

The main reason: PV solar is not such an interesting technology

Solar heat has higher efficiencies and is much cheaper to install;

Solar heat can be stored for a while and used for the downtime.

Systems based on this are installed and in use since some decades now.

Why does it take so long to install more and keep the world powered based on renewable energy? Engineers don't run the world, we don't decide.

Check out Desertec, attention, this organisation is in origin German, they tend to use a special kind of English, try to use google translate is unclear.

All is explained and calculated through. It is possible, but requires political guts.

The politicians must dare to force the electricity grid owners to invest in continuous improvement and allow alternatives to join the game, creaming of the cheap dirty methods to support the expensive clean techniques.

Another pro to force cleaner electricity production: With the dirty versions we tend to ship our money oversees, the clean versions mostly keeps the money rotating in the western world.

And in some years we will need huge amounts of electricity, to charge all those battery powered cars, so investing now in future proof electricity production systems is the old style of save investing: in some years your money will start to pay off, and for years and years.

So if I read your post correctly, you don't like my drill holes through the center of the Earth idea, either?

I was working out a plan with mirrors but decided to stay serious for at least one post

The (w)hole idea: is it now clear what happens when you fall through such a hole?

Why don't we fill the holes with massive bundles of optical fibres? Then there's no risk of falling down them, or losing the oceans. The down side, of course, is that we would no longer be able to rain on the Australians, but I guess we can't have everything.

I don't understand the whole idea of rain for Australia.

Why the hell do you want rain, we have it all the time and spend huge amounts of money to see the sun for longer than a day.

Just an idea:

pump seewater to a desert to have it evaporated by the sun,

the first evaporation will create a salt crust, impermeable for the next water, so that the salt water does not mix with the ground water.

the result will be that the local temperatures go lower and there comes more moist in the air which can fall out a bit further;

This method can bring fresh water into semi closed continental systems that loose continuously water.

Dead sea is one of these "closed" systems, since we measure it it has already dropped significantly (meters, not mm). The water from the see is evaporating and normally rains out to collect again in the Galilea lake to flow back to the Dead Sea through the Jordan, locals using the water intensively for agriculture and recreational usage drain the Jordan so that there is almost no water left to flow back to the Dead See.

My solution would be to connect the Dead sea with the Red see and let water flow through to keep the level of the Dead sea reasonable, thus injecting "fresh" water in a closed system.

There are more continental salt plains that would not bother to get some water to evaporate. The only problem is: how to get the sea water there in sufficient amounts.

The only solution is that politicians do want to solve things and create a change for the positive of a whole region, not only their specific class of voters/financiers.

You need to understand that there is a very special relationship between Brits and Aussies. Some of us just want the best for our commonwealth cousins, and to see their country become the green and pleasant land that we enjoy in the UK, and which more rain might bring. Others of us just want to thrash them at cricket and see them get wet.

Btw. I am very familiar with the rain in Belgium. It took me a long time and very many visits before I ever saw Belgium without the rain. But every cloud has a silver lining, and there does appear to be a correlation between rainfall and beer quality, which is why the best beers in the world come from Belgium and England.

I have heard that with high water presure you can take the salt out , if you aply this taking water from de mediteran to the dead sea you can generate both electric power and desalinated water.................. any suggestions sorry for my spelling

The process is called inverse osmosis.

It is indeed a good suggestion you make: the height difference between Dead sea and normal sea level is 423m (latest data from Israels oceanographic institute)

Which should only require little to no help to get some % of fresh water out of the stream going into the sea.

If only you can harvest the solar power of the day and use it at night {no need to share with your indian friend] and everybody does that the energy world(fuel oil )will go begging.What a pity.

put the extra in a battery and Mail it the the guy on the other side of the world.

Actually, using standing waves at 7.86Hz a signal can convey power from one point on the Earth's surface to another. This is the theory behind Tesla's magnifying transformer. One coil set is the transmitter and an identical set is the receiver and the two together comprise one transformer.

Study up on Tesla's ideas and see. There was a recent experiment here in my neck of the woods where two Professors, one in San Fran and the other in LA did this and showed a gain on the receiver of 1000% over the applied signal AND over a distance of 500Mi. It seems Tesla was right. The link is via the ground current and the top plate of the capacitors via scalar waves.

Could you estimate the size of the installation to push 1 Giga Watt over 5000 km (cross the atlantic)

can you use multiple sources and multiple drainers?

How to make sure that only those who are allowed to drain, can drain?

what is the efficiency: power in & power out

As far as I know, you cannot control the reception. This is what JP Morgan found out and he pulled his funding from the Wydencliffe project because he didn't want to be an "antenna salesman". However, multiple sources can operate at the same time, and their base frequency is the same, 7.86Hz. What I'm not certain about just yet is the relationship between the primary, secondary, and tertiary coils and their respective resonant frequencies. I do know that each one resonates at a different frequency, and that the receiver does the same. I do know that the base frequency is the resonant frequency of the Earth itself, and that the "dome" or "doughnut" at the top of the Tertiary coil is very high voltage and frequency and that "dome" is in fact the positive plate of the capacitor for the tertiary coil. The negative plate is the Earth. I know that each coil is paired with a cap in parallel in a tank circuit configuration and that the coil and cap are resonant. The base coil and cap resonate at 7.86Hz.

I know there is no limit to the distance except it must be connected to the Earth.

Also, I know that the receiver sees a gain of up to 1000% over the signal applied at the transmitter. How, I am not quite sure yet, but from what I understand, the gain is sourced through the coupling between the ground and the Sun. Yes, The Sun. Tesla realized that the Earth is at a ground state even though it receives charge constantly from the Sun. He realized that the potential between the two "poles" of the Earth-Sun dipole was ultimately the source of all energy on Earth, and so he developed the "magnifying transformer" to tap into this source directly. The further you get above ground the higher the voltage between your position and the ground will be. Tesla put a resonant system inbetween the ground and the above ground plate and realized the gain by that means.

I'm still building mine. But there are other experimenters out there such as Dr. Konstantin Meyl who have demonstrated the phenomenon repeatedly. It seems to cover all the cool stuff that was left out of the textbooks such as the tank circuit resonance phenomenon of 0 current and "infinite" voltage, as well as scalar waves rather than the usual transverse waves.

One other interesting phenomenon of these coils and their coupling is that the waves penetrate a Faraday cage! And the scalar waves appear to be 1.5 x c in velocity. They seem to "tunnel" through the cage.

Just send your unused voltons to Google for long term storage...then when you need some electricity, you just Google voltons!

3 space exploration teams; 1 American, 1 German and 1 Polish are at a world fair where an official is asking each team a question.

To the American team; "what is your mission?" to which the lead of the American team responded "to the planet Saturn".

Good Luck

To the German team; "what is your mission?" to which the lead of the German team responded "to the planet Neptune".

Good Luck

Finally asking the Polish team "what is your mission?" to which the lead of the Polish team responded; "We are going to the sun"

Isn't kinda hot there?

"No, we're going at night"

what you know about the energy ... dude

this looks like from some years ago

that dog's not dead http://ec.europa.eu/research/energy/eu/news/index_en.cfm

whats the question ... the Xenomorph may be involved

Instead of 24hrs you can get solar power for nearly 12hrs a day if the PV array is made in the form of a globe and mirrors are arranged around it to reflect sun's rays on to it from all directions.

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