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Compressed Air Optimization

07/26/2012 5:58 AM

Hi All,

I need ideas on how to tackle this challenge .We are using 2 of GA 250 Compressors

(Delivery: 6, 8 bar), driven by 250 KW Motor(525 V ,50Hz , 1490 RPM ,340 A , pf 0.84 , sf 1.15). Water in the pipeline is one of the issues.

I am new in the compressor field, though I am Mechanical.

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Re: Compressed Air Optimization

07/26/2012 6:07 AM

What's the challenge?

If it's water, fit a dryer, the type will depend on how dry you want the air.

The most important thing to get to grips with is, curing air leaks, they cost a lot of money.

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07/26/2012 6:12 AM

The challenges are Water in the system and Electricity usage.

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07/26/2012 6:21 AM

To reduce electricity usage, reduce the leaks from the system, as recommended in #1↑.

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07/26/2012 9:12 AM

Hi jmakgata,

According to the manufacturers information they each have a Free Air delivery of 35.88 cubic Meters per Minute, with a built in dryer.

So, you will need to check out the dryer side of the unit and ensure the compressor has adequate cooling air available.

35.88 Cu.Mtrs/Min. (1267Cu.Ft./min) is a lot of air and even well maintained air systems can easily have 10% of air leaks, so, I would guess you have the potential to save a lot of electricity (money).

I have a customer with compressors half the size of yours and found leaks that were costing him £30,000-00 per year. An expenditure of £1000-00 on bits and pieces cut it to £3,000-00 per year.

So the sooner you start the sooner you start to save.

If you invest in an Ultrasonic Leak Detector you can find the leaks while the plant is running rather than wait until it is quiet.

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07/27/2012 1:46 AM

"Ultrasonic Leak Detector"!!! Call me old fashioned, but what's wrong with soapy water and a brush?

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07/27/2012 5:53 AM

Hi Tony,

It must be the 40+ years in sales kicking in (at last). There's not much value/profit in soapy water but your right it can be as effective as the next, with more money left for Sun cream & Beer.

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07/26/2012 9:43 AM

In addition to #5↑ it could be that, if electricity consumption is high due to possible leaks, any existing air drying equipment might be over-extended due to the excessive throughput of air towards the leaks. So concentrate on fixing the leaks first and review the drying arrangements second.

Review also the original sizing calculations for these compressors. Has the air delivery system been extended and lots of additional air-consuming gear been bolted on since they were originally commissioned without looking at the sizing and capability of the compressors and their drying equipment? Is that why there is moisture in the delivered air, perhaps?

Review the maintenance records for the drying equipment also, and check that everything is as it should be.

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07/26/2012 6:20 AM

Air contains water; that's why it rains and snows from time to time. Once compressed for industrial use and cooled back to ambient, there is a tendency for the water that has passed through the compression system to condense-out. To avoid this, as in #1↑ fit a dryer in the system. Talk to the compressors' vendor as to how to best go about this. Having some idea about how dry the air needs to be is a good starting point. Dryness is indicated by the value of the "dewpoint", which is the lowest temperature of a surface on which the water in the air will begin to condense. For a rough-old pneumatic drill, drying is unneccessary; for instrument air around a factory complex, a dewpoint of -40degC would be a typical specification so as to avoid the risk of corrosion and malfunction through rusting of any steel components in the instruments and valve motors. Dewpoint specification depends upon latitude: -40degC dewpoint would be a nonsense in Singapore, for example, as the ambient rarely drops below +20degC. The facility in question may well have existing performance standards that must be followed.

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07/27/2012 12:30 AM

If the water is seen in the piping downstream of compressor, then the following can be checked.

a) This 2 stage oil injected screw machine may have moisture separator at each stage after the stage coolers, to knock off the condensed water. The separator drains out the water automatically thro' level sensing. You may check up whether the drain valve is functioning. Being oil flooded compressor, the carryover of water to compressor would not have caused any issue

b) If the inter/after coolers are water cooled shell &Tube type cooler, also water entry due to tube rupture is possible.

c) If the water is found downstream of the Dryer, then there could be a possibility of the regenerative dessicants in the dryer have outlived their life and are not absorbing the moisture.

d) If the downstream consumers are not overloading the system, the excess power consumption may be due to the excess mass flow corresponding to the lower ambient temperature, since this machine may not have auto regulating inlet slider valve for capacity control based on mass flow or excess motor current.

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07/27/2012 12:56 AM

Your compressor is said to have a built in dryer which means that there is also a sump that requires periodic draining. Draining should be automatic, but don't depend on it, check it periodically. The air is normally delivered using overhead piping. This piping should be installed with a downhill slope and a sump installed at the far end. The tap tees should be installed with the openings facing upward and then routed over and down to the delivery point. The amount of water collecting in the end sump is an indicator of how well the dryer is working.

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07/27/2012 2:41 AM

Hi,

Your post title talks "optimization" and your post talks of water in the compressed air piping.

What are you trying to optimize? To minimize energy consumption? To get dry air delivered to the point of use?

What are the particular specs of the compressors? In checking with the manufacturers literature they are available as single or double stage screw compressors and with/without refrigerant dryers built into their enclosures.

It doesn't sound like you have the fridge dryer option if you have wet air. It also doesn't sound like you have double stage screws if you are delivering under 4 cfm/hp.

To reduce power costs, reduce air leaks as other posters have suggested. They are the no 1 easiest thing to address to reduce energy use in compressed air. I've been in plants where if the leakage was under 25% of the entire output of the compressor room they thought life was good. And theses compressor rooms were 600-900 hp.

Take a close look at your compressor controls. If the compressors have "modulating controls" where they use an air modulating valve to throttle off the air inlet to the compressor as the pressure rises to the upper set point, you have another detail to address. Get rid of this modulation and convert the compressor to full on/full off with sump blowdown. The modulating valve puts the compressor into operation in areas where the HP versus flow is hugely inefficient. It runs best either pumping 100% on or idling. And idling is even a bad operation point for a screw compressor...they can draw significant hp even when putting out no air.

Get proper electronic controls onto the two compressors so they are operated in some sort of organized manner--separate compressors can end up where they are both operating at part load and kind of fighting each other....losing efficiency.

Consider installing what is called a "demand controller". This is like a big air regulator between the compressor house and the users in the rest of the plant. It also uses a big air receiver in the compressor house. It allows the compressors to run between their low end set point and high end set points while providing a solid, specific air pressure to the plant. It evens out the peaks and valleys of the pressure that the plant sees. It will also help the utilization of the compressors by helping you ride through peak air demand times that the two compressors may not be able to handle on their own.

A side benefit of demand controllers is that you can easily control the pressure that the plant sees. Then you can slowly crank it down. I know of a plant that started at 100 psi...the gold standard set point for plants in my industry...and started cranking the air pressure down. They lowered it until a user started whining, then investigated the problem and fixed it. Then lowered it more until someone else started complaining and fixed that. They ended up operating just fine at 70 psi. This represents a huge energy savings.

If you are considering an air dryer, pay close attention to which kind you think you need and watch the specifications really close!! Air dryers are energy hogs and you should use them ONLY if you have a good reason to! If you are using air tools, maybe just a good air cooling system (not an air dryer) to get most of the water out is all you need.

Fridge dryers are good if you need a dew point of around freezing (+1C or thereabouts) If you need instrument quality air with a dew point of -40C then you are faced with a desiccant dryer. Or if you are operating air equipment in freezing weather where the air valves and actuators must operate without freezing up.

There's quite a few parameters you need to spec when designing an air dryer installation. The dryer manufacturers will try to minimize the dryer and use your expensive compressed air to help with the drying. Avoid "heatless" desiccant dryers--they use your compressed air to dry the desiccant--in the order of 25-35% of your air.

As one old engineer told me years ago, "if you are marooned on a desert island with a crocodile and a compressed air salesman, and you have a gun with one bullet, shoot the salesman!!"

Good luck!

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07/27/2012 4:56 AM

Water vapour in the atmosphere when drawn in and compressed will get hot and then gradually cool throughout the system and then condense in the pipework and machines.

This water can be filtered and separated anywhere it is a problem and then dumped.

If you do not want water in the system then you need to ensure the air is cooled at source to a dew-point below the ambient temperature. Thus the air stays dry because it warms up as it passes through the in the system.

For ambient temperatures above freezing you can use a fridge dryer. Below freezing needs another technique. There are membrane and desiccant dryers to do this job.

If you already have a dryer then something is wrong. Check the working temperature of the after-coolers. If they are not lowering the temperature enough the hot air will overload the dryer. Check the dryer drains. Are they working. If not then the excess water builds up and carries over into the system.

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07/27/2012 5:26 AM

You need an auto oil/water separator, they remove any liquid contaminates and automatically dump them out when the reservoir starts to fill, I've used mine for years without any trouble for spray painting.

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