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Installing Condenser Parallel or Downard to Steam Turbine

09/23/2012 8:16 AM

Could anyone please let me know what is better in the Steam turbine performance aspects and what are general pros and cons between two cases?

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Re: Installing condenser parallel or Downward to Steam Turbine

09/23/2012 12:10 PM

What exactly do you mean by, "Installing condenser parallel ... to Steam turbine?

Normal place for the condenser is down stream of steam waste heat exchanger, if used, after the last stage of turbine.

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Re: Installing condenser parallel or Downard to Steam Turbine

09/23/2012 12:53 PM

They are in series, not parallel. Boiler→turbine→condenser (and usually return to boiler to form a closed cycle).

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Re: Installing Condenser Parallel or Downard to Steam Turbine

09/23/2012 4:50 PM

Let me try to parse through the broken English that is the hallmark of this website.

In many newer Combined Cycle plants, smaller steam turbines can be configured with the steam surface condenser ALONGSIDE (at the same elevation). I believ that this is what the OP meant when he said parallel

The advantage of this configuration is that plant capital costs are reduced with a shorter building. The disadvantage of this configuration is an increased pressure drop between the turbine and condenser.

The older configuration has the condenser located directly below the steam turbine. The steam turbine must be elevated somewhat This, of course, requires a substantial concrete/steel structure.

Large central steam stations cannot utilize the ALONGSIDE configuration.

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Re: Installing Condenser Parallel or Downard to Steam Turbine

09/24/2012 9:45 AM

This website appears to be for many nationalities. We have idiosyncratic forms but it behoves those of us for whom English is our mother tongue to be tolerant.

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Re: Installing Condenser Parallel or Downard to Steam Turbine

09/23/2012 9:04 PM

I am sorry to confuse you guys. "Parallel" I meant is installing condenser alongside at the same elevation with Steam Turbine in Combined cycle plant.

Previously I thought that this configuration made more pressure drop between Steam turbine and Condenser than when we install condenser below Steam turbine, but the vendor says the pressure drop is the same between two cases, so I wish to know what is correct.

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Re: Installing Condenser Parallel or Downard to Steam Turbine

09/23/2012 9:18 PM

Why would the pressure drop differ? Wouldn't the size and length of piping be about the same?

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Re: Installing Condenser Parallel or Downard to Steam Turbine

09/23/2012 10:49 PM

Dear Mr.Philipwon,

The Title and your statement

"Could anyone please let me know what is better in the Steam turbine performance aspects and what are general pros and cons between two cases?Could anyone please let me know what is better in the Steam turbine performance aspects and what are general pros and cons between two cases?" does NOT match.

What I understand from the topic - is WHETHER THE CONDENSER TO BE INSTALLED DOWN BELOW THE TURBINE or MOUNT AT THE SAME LEVEL, BY THE SIDE OF THE TURBINE.? If so, the civil work in terms of Foundations and Elevations, and hence Building Height alone will be less for side installed condenser, suitably the Turbine Steam Exit will be decided. Performance wise , it should NOT matter.

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Re: Installing Condenser Parallel or Downard to Steam Turbine

09/24/2012 7:34 AM

From an initial performance standpoint makes no difference. In operation however, the below the turbine configuration is more forgiving and protects the turbine better.

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09/24/2012 9:12 AM

...as any water droplets appearing towards the aftermost stage of the turbine will tend to escape from it under the influence of gravity.

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