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Factor to Calculate Exact Current for Supply Power of Welding Machine

07/18/2013 3:27 AM

Dear collague

I have to calculation cable and MCCB supply power for welding machine ( 5.8 KVA, Input voltage 230V Single phase;400V three phase, 50 Hz, Duty cycle 60, 100%, Open circuit voltage 35 V, Welding current range: 150-240 A). Could you please send me factor to calculation exactly current for chosen cable and MCCB supply power to operation machine.

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07/18/2013 3:31 AM

The British Standards Institution can do this though there is a fee to pay for publications. The document needed is British Standard 7671. On-line ordering using a credit or debit card is tickety-boo.

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07/18/2013 4:33 AM

If in doubt, consult a qualified Electrician locally.

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07/18/2013 6:08 AM

First, select which of the given input voltages you will be using.

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07/18/2013 6:19 AM

Dear Friends

Input voltages will be use for welding machine is 380 voltages ( AC three phase).

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07/18/2013 6:30 AM

In principle, at least, 5800 VA ÷ (380 √3 V) ≈ 8.81 A. Initial current will be higher, of course. If local codes do not specify otherwise, I would use 10 AWG wire and a 30A breaker.

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07/18/2013 9:43 AM

Tornado has given you enough rope to hang yourself.

You'd better hope that no one asks you to justify your answer.

Or, worse yet, challenges you to show your work.

Or, wants your advice about another electrical calculation.

If they do, you're TOAST!

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07/18/2013 8:06 PM

1. Thanks for all contact and answer for me in this forum.

2. What I do not know clear I post to this forum and hope have correct question receive method to solve problem.

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07/18/2013 8:16 PM
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07/18/2013 11:54 PM

What about using three clamp on amp meters on the feed wires for the three phase? Not most accurate but it should answer your question or lead you in the right direction. Calibrate the three to read the same current accurately by clamping them all on the same cable along with a known correct meter.

Use one meter for the single phase.

If you want the parameters for the secondary use a clamp on amp meter (AC or DC depending upon the welder setting) and a volt meter across it. Have a good welder strike an arc and maintain a consistent arc. Read the meters.

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05/08/2019 11:56 AM

Dear oldsalt

My understanding from the OP is " how to calculate the incoming supply cable size and mcc rating. This involves calculations as per applicable standards.

What I understand from your post is to measure the current - which means the welding machine is working and the current to be measured. The incoming supply or mcc may be oversized/undersized installation.

After measuring the current, it may call for replacing the cable or mcc or both if under-sized which is a trial and error basis. Am I right.?

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07/19/2013 10:59 AM

You didn't mention Manufacturer or model number. Try contacting the manufacturer, or the distributor you bought the power supply from. They have manuals with specifications and correct connection requirements.

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