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SHACKLES...Which One is the Strongest

08/01/2013 3:23 PM

Of these 3 shapes, which of these will absolutely take the most vigorous twisting, yanking, pulling and towing?

  1. No. 1 " Twist"
  2. No.2 "D"
  3. No. 3 "Bow"

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Re: SHACKLES...Which one is the strongest

08/01/2013 3:38 PM

If you look at The Crosby Group Web site, they should have the information you need. As far as side loading, you may have to search their catalog. I think its listed on page 80.

btw, those are metric tons listed on the link for working load limit.

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08/01/2013 5:16 PM

I don't see that the shapes would make any difference generally speaking...It has more to do with materials of construction and treatment, or lack of treatment, that would make a difference....that together with application....I had a problem with putting a swing in a monkey's cage once....Initially it was just chain and shackles...well within just a couple of weeks the chain rubbing back and forth on the shackles wore through the chain and shackle equally until it broke....I was amazed and puzzled how that monkey could cause that much wear and tear in such a short time, I mean he was only about 15 lbs. and the chain and shackle were 3/8"....well I replaced the shackles with pulley's and then added swivels and then shackled to the chain, well that solved the problem....it's all in dealing with movement and stresses with a proper fitting that will minimize the wear...In your case of dragging a net, I would think that pulling strength would be the main concern, that would dictate no quench and temper process to facilitate maximum loading, as a further requirement a highly corrosive environment if this is for salt water....I would contact these people↓ or other specialist...

http://blog.cmworks.com/what-makes-our-american-made-super-strong-shackle-super/

http://www.cmworks.com/Public/27585/CM%20Shackles%20Technical%20Brochure.pdf

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Re: SHACKLES...Which One is the Strongest

08/01/2013 5:18 PM

They are all the same.

3090/5070

JSI > Shackles > D-Shackles > Twisted D

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08/01/2013 8:17 PM

Reminds me of the time I was building canal walls and jetties on the islands. I used them all to make my chain slings to lift heavy bollards and stack these. Mine have all been tested and show heavy deformations, but held. The bolt slot bends, and so does the rest. They are stainless steel.

The straight one holds its form better. The circle one has been stretched and the 90 one straightened. If it helps? The steel (galvanized) ones are less beautiful but cost less and for the price, do more lifting. They also become beautifully brown in color in little time.

The ones you show I use on my sail boat - it shines and weighs less.

Oh, forgot your question. answer: monkey see, monkey do - all the same strength.

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08/01/2013 8:24 PM

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08/02/2013 3:48 AM

Just make sure that, after the experiments, none of them is used for lifting.

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08/02/2013 9:00 AM

So, is it safe to say that general consensus is: the shape is not so important as the material its built with?

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08/02/2013 12:25 PM

The 3 you show have each a different purpose:

The narrow one is for straight in line forces. The round eye is for more movement, like swinging. And the 90 is mostly used for sails where the sail comes to the mast eye 90 degrees turned. It replaces 2 straight ones in this case.

You need to know HOW MUCH you will need it to hold.

They come in sizes for that reason.

The SS are generally slimmer in the series that you show. Call them "for entertainment".

Once you buy professional bigger Shackles the SS comes in about the same sizes as the regular steel ones.

Also they wear out with moving and degrade that way.

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08/02/2013 1:37 PM

Excellent answers.

I have a piece that already wears out due to wear and tear and saltwater. I only need to carry a load of under 300 kg.

the description of what each shape does is all news to me.

Why did I waste 4.5 years at LSUNO....I could have just asked all the questions of life here! ha ha!

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08/03/2013 2:38 PM

Shackles are load rated.

This means, a manufacturer comes up with a design, fabricates many of them and then breaks a number of them. The average breaking load is divided by a safety factor (usually 3-5) and a RATED LOAD is thus established.

Your phrase, "the most vigorous twisting, yanking, pulling and towing" has no real meaning.

Please don't stand under anything you are lifting

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08/03/2013 3:07 PM

Thank you for the comment and information on Load Rating as I was always curious about how they derived that phrase.

No lifting involved.....this the fishing business, not the Oil field.

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08/04/2013 12:42 AM

Obviously many of the answers are not from sailors. There is no difference if there is a satisfactory margin between the working load rating and the actual use load. One can not say that each particular design has its own type of use. When you need a shackle you need a shackle quickly. You use what its available and what will hold the load in the particular arrangement of load.

Hang around a building site where cranes are in use and a lot of rigging is being done. You will see that many, if not all, the shackles are extremely over rated for the task they are used for. They range in all different configurations, but they all take their load with the users conservative use of the ratings.

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08/25/2013 10:17 PM

Seeing the twisted shackle reminds me of twisting one inch flat bar to create a stiffer door stop on a project I worked on several years ago in a shipyard. When I asked a co-worker why he put a twist in the flat bar, his answer was that twisting the steel work hardened the piece but had to have the right amount of twist to be strong. I don't know how true that is or if it applies here but I do remember that trick being useful when angle, tubular, or other types of pieces were not available.

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