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09/21/2013 1:21 PM

If i have a system which protect human in case of shock ,means when any person get electric shock at that time when any injury occur before it power is cut of ,,,,, I have to check system in lab ,then how can I check it that it protect human life ?

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09/21/2013 1:33 PM

Recruiting volunteers might indeed be a problem.

Maybe you could simulate body conductivity with a container of some sort of gel.

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09/21/2013 1:45 PM

but i can't take risk with human life.,,,,any other way which have no risk .,,,,,

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09/21/2013 3:02 PM

Please read sentence 2.

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09/21/2013 3:14 PM

After the test, snack time.

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09/21/2013 3:21 PM

Guinea turtles--yum!

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09/21/2013 1:54 PM

You offer them cash and have them sign a no fault or liability contract first.

You may be amazed at what some people will let you do to them in the name of science for money!

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09/21/2013 2:02 PM

I regret to inform you, but, these devices were invented long ago. They are known as ground fault circuit interrupters here in North America.

If you want to continue with this project, contact any of the certified product testing labs. They have the tools and the skills needed to test and document your devices.

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09/21/2013 4:50 PM

please send me the information related to this instrument.,,,plz send me its detail.,,,,

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09/21/2013 2:26 PM

Your system; your responsibility; TEST IT ON YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!

If you don't know how to perform the test, you should not have the job you have.

Let's just hope that you kill only yourself.

See other responses, get a different job.

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09/21/2013 2:45 PM

No don't encourage him to get another job. The odds are he will become a manager next.

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09/21/2013 2:52 PM

I think the gene pool will be thinned first.

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09/21/2013 6:19 PM

Electrical Safety Testing Reference Guide....Please read this before proceeding.....

http://www.psma.com/ul_files/forums/safety/estguide2.pdf

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09/21/2013 11:03 PM

Cell rupture beyond repair takes place with excessive current through body. Cells have electrolytic Sodium pump for exchange of chemicals between cell cytoplasm fluid and blood and these ionic gates open and close due to cell potential known as cell transduction. There are mainly three channels, Sodium Potassium and Calcium. External high potential opens all gates beyond control and blood and cell fluid gets mixed up and kills cells due to electrical discharge. Electrical shock is only an action of the muscle cells and nerve sensing by brain which we experience.

Even though there may be a safe limit for common human being for current limit, it may still may be harmful to some.

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09/22/2013 4:26 AM

The mechanism of cell death is heating due to the high current, not gate opening.

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09/21/2013 11:20 PM

mohishpavala-

Purchase a Ground fault Interrupter tester. Available at all big box stores, electrical supply houses, hardware stores and many other stores. You plug it in the outlet, push a button, and it trips the CFI. They do this at a certain current, which replicates a human being, that is standard to the industry, or it is supposed to be. Now available for $5-15 USA dollars. Used to be more expensive. Buy the best one you can get for accuracy and consistent results.

Hardest part about owning one of these is remembering where you used it last. Get 2 units so you have one if you "temporarily loose one".

Good Luck, Old Salt

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09/22/2013 3:43 AM

The reality of GFI's and FNAG's, et al is to protect equipment, not neccesarily human life. It's a bonus if it can save someone but the intent is to cut off power in a short period of time and do as little damage as possible.

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09/22/2013 12:19 PM

You need to rethink this. The only purpose of a GFI is to protect people! They measure current flow when a path from line to ground exists. Such a path is normally through an individual.

If it, the GFI was designed to protect the equipment, it would measure the insulation value between the line and ground instead of waiting for a current flow.

As to a "FNAG", I do not have a clue what they are. Google and Wikipedia both turn up nothing when the term is used in a search.

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09/23/2013 3:33 AM

WALOOB.

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09/23/2013 7:38 AM

Morning... I checked this site with no results...

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Would you be so kind as to translate "Waloob" for me. It has such a nice ring to it.

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09/23/2013 12:42 PM

I'm guessing it's an acronym of What A Load Of Obvious Bollocks.

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09/22/2013 5:40 AM

GFCIs in USA are rated to trip at 7 ma to protect lives, because above 7 ma there is the risk of your heart stopping or fibrillating.

In the UK they have RCDs and RCBOs of 30 ma, 100 ma, and 300 ma, and every set-able ma, for equipment protection.

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09/23/2013 3:34 AM

Hire a qualified electrician that is able to go through the system and make recommendations to bring it up to the latest edition of British Standard 7671.

Then, follow them up.

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