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First patented 1866, but around much longer than that in other forms.

Here it is 2013, a new century well started, yet we cling to an IMHO outdated piece of porcelain in public spaces, using up valuable BR area for what only appears to be macho reasons. There is no physical reason that one is better off standing to relieve themselves of urine. Even so, there are many who insist on standing over the classic bowl, and become even less sanitary, whether hitting the 'target' or not.

Why does the public washroom continue to include these IMHO monstrosities which are expensive, less than sanitary, and inefficient use of space / resources as well ?

I have seen many "improved" designs, trying to reduce water, etc etc, but the fact remains it is a single-purpose device.

Can anyone present a sound reason not to make them history ?

Do they really exist only because we are too lazy to drop and squat ?

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10/10/2013 10:57 PM

They are more efficient when you have a long queue of people. I like the pee-ing walls in the U.K. many are on timers and sensors so they only flush when required.

Most use much less water then toilets and there are some waterless ones in use today.

I don't see any reason to get rid of them...

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10/10/2013 10:59 PM

I think a lot of people like peeing on the walls when in the UK too!

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That depends on what day of the week, and location of the wall, my friend.

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10/10/2013 11:04 PM

So THAT's why I noticed so many UK's smelling of pee over there. Must be bouncing off the walls and floors onto their clothing. Is that really great or what. Just because it is "popular" doesnt mean its still a good idea.

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10/11/2013 10:50 AM

Some of the modern urinals that I have seen (in several countries) are waterless (and don't smell when maintained) and have a target.

If you arepositioned right and aim at the target the splatter is contained within the urinal. Toiltets are often too far from a standing male and you get splatter on your legs and walls.

In my opinion, urinals can be more sanitary than toilets with the added benefit that almost all of them use less water.

Here is a waterless one with the target.

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10/11/2013 10:45 AM

This is the pee-ing wall that I was thinking of. There are some very nice ones in some of the older public loos.

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10/10/2013 11:22 PM

Yup, arsenals are definitely the way to go...!

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10/10/2013 11:26 PM

I thought Arsenals were football players - - -

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10/10/2013 11:32 PM

Hmmm...do they have any players from the Ur(in)als??

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10/10/2013 11:56 PM

Not a pee wee league, to be sure.

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10/11/2013 12:04 AM

The world is falling down around or heads and we are worried about peeing into some hole. Weather is is filled with water, a flat wall to pee on or just some *&%$# hole, Who cares! Get on with it. Lets solve some hunger issue, stop the wars, something that would feed the staving kids. But a hole to pee in? really!

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10/11/2013 12:17 AM

I appreciate and agree with your sentiments, but for the sake of cleanliness and a few less places for MRSI and Ecoli to be, doesnt that help the world be a cleaner, healthier place as well ? Would you prefer some hardy germ to find you at the wall and spread itself by your assistance, who would you be helping then. Of course we all wash our hands, dont we, its the few who do not that risk us all of contagious diseases. The Urinal, or open sewer, or pee wall are all great places for contagions. Just because there is an odor block in there does not mean it is sanitary. I would like to save the world too, maybe this is one place we can start.

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10/11/2013 12:44 AM

I think it's more the frequency with which the restrooms are cleaned, more than the receiving device actually used.....besides most urinals are auto flush nowadays....it's faster to use a urinal...

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10/11/2013 3:19 AM

If you ask me, it depends on culture really. There are places in Africa where people pee on the street and NOT for a lack of urinals, mind you. So, peeing on an oversized porcelain urinal is in a way a sign of our affluence. Think about it..

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10/11/2013 3:58 AM

Not more than 50% of washrooms have them now, so they must be in the decline.

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10/11/2013 6:04 AM

Do they really exist only because we are too lazy to drop and squat ?

Yes.

How would they enforce a "drop and squat" law?

Besides, the modern "auto-flush" urinals might use a pint of water, while a "drop and squat" would use a minimum of 1.6 gallons per flush.

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10/11/2013 9:11 AM

There are still large portions of the world where (if there is an actual public restroom), the facilities have no urinals or toilets, only a hole in the floor with a footprint on either side. And you are worried about the sanitary condition of what we use? IMO, a toilet is no more sanitary than a urinal, because the splashing of the water while flushing often can spray up as much as a urinal would. And you are not physically in contact with a urinal the way you would be on a toilet seat.

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10/11/2013 12:57 PM

Oh well.....to each his own....

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10/11/2013 10:39 PM

"Do they really exist only because we are too lazy to drop and squat ?"

They exist because we don't want to - drop and squat.

Urinals also have reduced cycle times thus quicker ROI ....and .....you can drop a charged capacitor into one at a bar.....objects in urinals are irresistible.

We males are basically idiot starter kits - just add alcohol.........

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10/11/2013 11:28 PM

Fastest I ever heard of was a bar in the Phillipines - urinal was a folded piece of gal iron UNDER the BAR.

No need to interrupt drinking, conversation, eating - tho not sure about the girls

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10/12/2013 12:39 AM

Anyway, in the bible - human males were defined as "wall pee'er"!

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10/12/2013 12:40 AM

you are extracting the urine, ain't ya?

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10/12/2013 1:44 AM

too lazy to drop and squat

Obviously you don't have an enlarged prostate that prevents you from voiding completely unless you are standing.

Old age sucks.

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I agree totally

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10/12/2013 8:29 AM

Urinals must help reduce time.They also seem to take up much less space. And if they are the trough type instead of individual type they allow even more users at one time.

Have you ever been to a public venue with long lines. The mens line moves much quicker than the womens. So therefore urinals must be much more efficient.

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10/12/2013 12:05 PM

Urinals are twice as fast as sit down toilets and take up a lot less space.

Especially the 'horse troughs' they used to have at Fenway Park.

I've heard they're gone now. Too bad, it was a rite of 'passage' when 'going' to the game.

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10/13/2013 11:51 AM

I was thinking about those trough-type ones too - which I never see anymore. For most men, those urinals were of an efficient height to avoid splatter, and you could fit in as many users at once as the comfort/closeness lever could be tolerated.

When a owner of a facility is looking at co$t, and sees a need for "x" number of "stations", the urinal is going to win everytime, rather than the toilets, which when considering not only the cost of the fixture, but the space and the stall fixtures as well.

I often joke when I hear arguments about "potty equality" - where it takes longer for the women's lines than the men's - that if they crowded the womens fixtures as close togeather as the urinals and did away with the walls (with promote "lingering" around instead of leaving the stall) then both lines would move at a closer pace.

One other comment: maybe the use is at a decline. I'm attending some classes at local community college, and I notice that most young students seem to go into a toilet stall to relieve themselves even when only urinating. I believe that this behavior might be due to the number raised under the influence of a hysterical belief that EVERYONE is a child molester that has stayed with them since early childhood.

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10/14/2013 7:56 AM

I don't know about that.

I still have a shy bladder. I don't know why...just have a hard time peeing with people standing next to me. I've pretty much been able to overcome it, by imagining myself somewhere else, and alone.

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10/14/2013 7:28 AM

By nature women stop and squat, men stand and write their name in the snow or water a tree. So, the question is which gender would you rather be, or perhaps the problem is that some men really have to belly-up to the urinal to keep from urinating on their shoes?

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10/15/2013 4:49 AM

The benefits of the urinal guarantee it is here to stay.

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Greater speed; less water; less space; less splashing; less contact; all in a fecal-free area: for urinating, it has the toilet beat, pants up!\

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Apparently women have a few versions of their own now as well, so perhaps their lines will be getting shorter soon.

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10/15/2013 7:06 AM

Not unrelated, some years ago a lady invented a plastic thing about 6" long, hollow, open at each end, tapering from around an inch at one end to around 1/2" at the other, which would allow fems to use a urinal.

I emailed her & suggested she could call it a 'NOPE'

Short for 'No mOre Penis Envy'

She didn't even say thank you.

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it's a draw.. so far....

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I will see you one urinal and raise you this one.

certainly different

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and this one

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10/22/2013 10:24 AM

I do like this one, didn't see a soap dispenser though...

As for your other link, I just wasted way too much time looking at toilets!

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10/17/2013 2:32 AM

Urinals help prevent long ques at the kitchen sink.

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or at the window on the third floor!!

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I prefer the windows too, there's normally a curtain conveniently at hand......

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LOL...

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Why is it with long flights (especially to/from Asia) by the end of the flight the washroom is a stinking swamp? Are people standing on the seat to pee? I have seen footprints on the seat. I assume they where not tying their shoe laces. Perhaps urinals on airplanes would be more sanitary!

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10/22/2013 11:16 AM

Why urinals when there are so many windows?

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