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Condensation in Gas Detectors(Hazardous Area)

05/15/2014 7:06 PM

hi all

just wondering, why is condensation forming in a gas detection device or in a sampling line a problem?

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Re: condensation in gas detectors(hazardous area)

05/15/2014 7:18 PM

Really? Just wondering?

Do you not see a problem here???????????????????

What do you think a GAS detection device will do if it becomes clogged with condensate?

Come on. Take a wild guess.

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Re: condensation in gas detectors(hazardous area)

05/15/2014 7:19 PM

Is the equipment fitted with a hazardous area-rated breather gland, because it sounds like it may need to be?

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Re: condensation in gas detectors(hazardous area)

05/15/2014 8:01 PM

The device may contain a heating element that has failed.....I would contact the manufacturer or distributor to check on operating characteristics of this model....and also would check that this is the proper type of detector for this environment....

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Re: condensation in gas detectors(hazardous area)

05/15/2014 9:04 PM

Condensate is a liquid! You can take it from here!

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Re: Condensation in Gas Detectors(Hazardous Area)

05/17/2014 12:48 AM

harryelec:

Whatever you are seeing is outside picture.

Do you see air / gas flow rate going down? If not then it must be taking care properly through thermal insulation and inline cartridge heater so you need not worry about outside condensation "except for the entry point".

Do you have a picture? Model number and type of gas detector you are talking about? What is that it is supposed to detect and its detection method?

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Re: Condensation in Gas Detectors(Hazardous Area)

05/17/2014 10:49 AM

To put it very simply, condensation produces a liquid (water from humidity in many instances) that will act as a solvent for the gas, thereby lowering the readings, slowing down the effective time constant, and generally buggering up the readings.

What's more, any condensate formed with an acidic corrosive solute (such as chlorine, or sulfur dioxide), will begin a corrosion cell or cells within the device and may result in total failure of the sensor.

To correct such a problem, it may be necessary to warm the sample stream above the dew point by (say) 5 °C. Also, consider that the dew point might not be just that of water, but of acid gases that can form liquids at even higher temperatures. It is not considered possible to "dehumidify" the sample stream without affecting the content of the analyte to be measured, so that is ruled out by default.

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Re: Condensation in Gas Detectors(Hazardous Area)

05/19/2014 9:25 AM

Hi harryelec,

In my hazwaste days I used photo ionization detectors (PID's) that came equipped with a desiccant filter to solve such a problem. A little condensation in the flow path might give you higher than normal readings in some cases. Though, I think it would take a lot condensation to clog the flow. I hope this helps

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