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Current Measurement

06/25/2007 3:12 AM

I have been trying to accuratly measure current drawn by an actuator in a test box. Preveously I have used a 1 Ohm resistor and have obtained a result of around 100mA off load. Now I am using a 0.1 Ohm resistor and am seeing a result of around 0.004mV which equates to around 0.04mA which is not what I was getting before. Now I am using sense lines in my test box where I didn't before. I belive that as this is a small amount of resistance other resistance is also being picked up in my circuit. Could anyone advise???

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Re: Current Measurement

06/25/2007 3:54 AM

Repeat your tests in the most simple possible setup.

As your results differ so widely, there is probably just a missreading somewhere. (Known as 'finger trouble' in my circles...others doubtless have another name for it!)

When in doubt ...simplify.

My instinct is to believe your 1ohm test result. But how did you measure the volts drop across it?...with a scope I hope.

Digital multimeters are not much use at v low signals which are not stable DC.

What type of actuator, how long does it operate for, what is the manufacturers spec'...What volts is it being driven from.... Is it a DC actuator...what is it's DC resistance.

Let us know how you get on.

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I often use the 1ohm resistor as a quick test, (12v DC motor gearbox and electronic control cct type stuff)

Maybe try a Digital multimeter in series for a direct readout of current.

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Re: Current Measurement

06/25/2007 5:45 AM

Tricky to use a resistor to measure current. The resistor adds more resistance to the circuit and reduces the overall current. In your case, however, reducing the resistance also reduced the current. Strange.

My knee jerk answer would be to say that there's something wrong with your set up:

  • you've probably misread your meter
  • you've misread your resistor (that happens to me, especially with color coded ones)
  • something wrong with your connections
  • your meter's become like a brain dead person. It's still ticking and breathing but dead to the world.

However, you mentioned that you're using sense lines that you didn't have before. I don't know exactly what you mean but I'm going to hazard a guess.

Your other sense lines are getting part of the current and starving your sense resistor. 'Try taking them off first and repeating your measurement?

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Re: Current Measurement

06/25/2007 10:10 AM

It's also possible that your current may have an AC component. That may result in wide differences in DC measurements between a large and a smaller signal - especially a signal that small.

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Re: Current Measurement

06/25/2007 11:19 PM

Check the tolerance of the resistors used.

Low value resistors do not have good tolerance.

Take few sets of readings with different resistors

and if possible with different multimeter.

Try a known value of current.You will be able o guess the reliable components and multimeter.

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Re: Current Measurement

06/26/2007 2:05 AM

Firstly, how did you measure 4 microvolt !!?

Secondly, with 1 Ohm resistor if the current is DC you should have 0,1 volt drop on it

and so 0,01 volt on the 0,1 resistor ,that you say you don't

obviously , something wrong is with your measurement or something you didn't explain well.

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Re: Current Measurement

06/26/2007 3:06 AM

Thankyou very much for your help guys. Eventually I found that it was an error on my part as I left the sense terminals commoned together with the output terminal on the PSU, always something simple. And as stated the sense line and the power line shared the current between them.

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06/26/2007 4:58 AM

Now you see why we call it 'finger trouble' !

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Re: Current Measurement

06/26/2007 8:33 AM

Use a 4-wire kelvin connection. Your resistors and lead wires are too close in resistance values to accurately measure the voltage drop.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-terminal_sensing

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