Solidify Animal Fat at Above Room Temp.

I read this and several other articles under various headings and the solidifying factor was not mentioned also several videos on tallow candles did not help. I know lye can be used but we need to keep it non toxic.

"I know lye can be used but we need to keep it non toxic."

You have seen what dogs will eat right?

What dogs will eat and what is SAFE for dogs to eat are two different categories.

Most dog lovers would prefer to make sure the treats they make/give to the dogs are in both categories, i.e. the dog WANTS to eat it, and the dog won't get hurt eating it.

Please define <...non-toxic...>.

• According to urban legend the LD50 for water in humans is about 18 gallons.

You could coat them with paraffin like they do chocolate....sounds delicious....

http://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/the-best-dipping-coating-chocolate-ever-282722

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Thanks SolarEagle: Wax was part of our discussion and I did mention canuba wax since it is used on many fruits such as apples, not sure of how thick it can be applied but both it and paraffin may be on the short list.

Carnauba wax consists of fatty acid esters (80-85%), fatty alcohols (10-16%), acids (3-6%) and hydrocarbons (1-3%). It is around 20% esterified fatty oils, 10% methoxylated or hydroxylated cinnamic acid, and 6% hydroxylated fatty acids. Carnauba wax has a very high melting point of 82-86 °C (180-187 °F). It is harder than concrete and nearly insoluble in water and ethanol. It is non-toxic and hypoallergenic. The combination of properties leads to many applications, including use in food, cosmetics, automobile and furniture wax, molds for semiconductor devices, and as a coating for dental floss. You use products that contain carnauba wax every day, though you may not have known what the ingredient was or where it came from. It is one of those extremely useful natural chemicals and renewable resources that doesn't have a synthetic equivalent. As for my car smelling like candy... the wax does have a distinctive sweet scent. It might be more accurate to say many car waxes and candies smell like carnauba wax.

If this helps!!!

Great info Andy I knew of Carnauba but did not have the technical properties to pass on.. cheers.

Thanks JNB: Room temp in this case would be 60 F- 100 F to cover expected ambient temps. His only concern is having a dripping mess come serving time. I will send him your valued comments and he can research the hydroxide solution. The information of alkali is most helpful and interesting especially from a health aspect. Boron come to mind as well as magnesium.

Hydrogen turns tallow into trans fats.

Trans fats kill people and I suspect, dogs.

Omega three ratio's are rarely improved by the addition of the cheapest beef product, fish on the other hand, would work well. Except farmed fish...which are often fed butcher shop by-products and don't have a favorable omega 3 to 6 ratio.

Oh well, it won't be about the nutrition or anything like that, because there are a million cut outs and dodges in this enterprise, it will be all about the marketing. Good luck.

Thanks Yusefi: I have observed your comments and many would be wise to take a look at their intake of so called food. My associate has no desire to harm his 4 legged customers and in fact would like to help them on their way to a long and healthy life.

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I have posted extensively on this topic (Omega 3 and 6 ratios) in other places. Mostly because there seem to be little interest in the science of eating right, and the last thing I would LIKE to do for my friends before I visit that great dog dish in the sky is to nudge them in the right direction. Since cancer is one of the biggest killers of dogs (mostly due to their diet here in the west), I am pleased to see some effort is being expended to maybe rectify the situation. Dog treats are a start! (BTW, Omega 3's must be twice that of Omega 6. Equal is not good enough. Lots of BS on google though! Pick your battles. )

I fairly recenty read a study on cooking oils and although good quality olive oil is good, there is one cooking oil, available here at least that is significantly better - Rape seed oil!!

I would post the pdf but you need to be pretty hot in understanding German.....but in all regards, it is "healthier" than any other oil type......

If anyone else has interest, I can post a diagram comparing it against Olive and corn oil.....

This is from Wikipedia: Rape seed is now called Canola and is 90% GMO in Canada. Canola was adopted for a name due to negative perception of Rape seed which did not mean the sexual interpretation as it is old English word for root.

Health effects[edit]

Rapeseed blossoms

Rapeseed oil is one of the oldest vegetable oils, but historically was used in limited quantities due to high levels of erucic acid, which is damaging to cardiac muscle, and glucosinolates, which made it less nutritious in animal feed.^[17] Rapeseed oil can contain up to 54% erucic acid.^[18] Food-grade canola oil derived from rapeseed cultivars, also known as rapeseed 00 oil, low erucic acid rapeseed oil, LEAR oil, and rapeseed canola-equivalent oil, has beengenerally recognized as safe by the United States Food and Drug Administration.^[19] Canola oil is limited by government regulation to a maximum of 2% erucic acid by weight in the USA^[19] and 5% in the EU,^[20] with special regulations for infant food. These low levels of erucic acid are not believed to cause harm in human neonates.^[19][20]

In 1981, a deadly outbreak of disease in Spain, known as toxic oil syndrome,^[21] was caused by the consumption of colza oil (a cousin of rapeseed oil procured from a similar species of rapa) for industrial use that was fraudulently sold as olive oil to be consumed in cooking, salads, and other food related uses. Symptoms appeared as a typical pneumonia with interstitial infiltrates on chest x-ray, complicated by pulmonary hypertension in a significant number of cases.^[22]

Good Post.

Here is a screen shot of the official document:-

CANada Oilseed Low [erucic] Acid.

Erucic acid has been shown to damage cardiac muscle - in rats only.

"Colza" is Spanish for rapeseed.

I guess carnauba wax will be too expensive to build up a thick crust.

How about giving the dogs a frozen treat, sort of like popsicles for dogs. Most dogs eat their treats so fast they won't have time to melt

This may be a possibility he will have to discuss it with his retailers. GA

Thanks to all every one got a good reply from me and I feel I have all the information I need to pass on. Thanks again and kindest regards..

How about using an outer layer formed from plasticized hoof material, sort of a treat capsule, if you will. If the inner contents are greasy, semi-liquid, I imagine ladies will be be like this when they see the results on their carpets. Beeswax not much better than the simple tallow. I would expect you could make the calcium soap from the tallow easily with slaked lime. Use an innocuous solvent that will evaporate completely (not hexane), to allow for separation of the calcium soap from the glycerin, or even a water extraction process, but this could form a horrible emulsion.

One must be careful of the ratios of such additives.