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Material of Shaft

09/06/2014 8:42 AM

Dear Sir,

Please suggest that which type of material is used making a blower shaft in annealing furnace temp is 1000 deg C.

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09/06/2014 8:48 AM

Unobtanium will do everything you want without knowing any of the Physics needed for proper design.

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09/06/2014 11:00 AM

Ceramic will do nicely.

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09/06/2014 11:26 AM

Most ceramics will easily withstand 1000° C but why would the blower be subjected to these temperatures. Steel will also withstand this temperature without being as brittle as most ceramics.

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09/06/2014 11:36 AM

Garbage in, garbage out!

This OP seems to follow the norm here of wanting answers to undefined questions.

Also typical, no one seems capable of searching for information on their own, but would rather waste our time with questions they could easily answer themselves.

So, ceramic it is.

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09/07/2014 12:13 AM

What are you going to make the blower impeller out of?

What are you annealing at 1000 degC?

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09/07/2014 6:26 AM

Gupta,

If you are engineer you should know that blower for furnace is externally mounted, so 1000 deg C is the temp. is not surrounding the blower it will be higher than ambient temp. You can use En 8/9 steel for shaft

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09/07/2014 8:31 PM

If you want to save $ or Euros or what ever you use for Money then use what My dad used for the blower on his melting pots for Tungstan doped steel. He used plain old red Bricks. Just be careful the first time you fire up the furnace. The part of the shaft close to the furnace will get very hot. The Brick unless old will have a little water left in them. However bricks are have pors (spelling sorry ) So let the fire build up slow and for a while let it get hotter and hotter slowly the first time. Now. The Bricks were only used for the last few feet of the shaft connecting to the furnace. The Rest of the shaft was Normal HVAC ducting and there was also a two way dampener and the motor for the fan was variable. The way my dad did the thing was cheap and it worked well for years. Decades in fact. And it was made exactly the way he wanted it. As the company grew they used the same design with variations. I always like to over engineer something. If you say 1k Deg C then like my dad I like to go way past that. He started at Boeing as an engineer. In his department they always engineered to the worst possible stesses from turbulence ( He was in the wing and engine mount department ) So the worst possible case. Then add 10% more then a little more for Mom as he used to say. And that is what they did. No Engines ever fell off of a Boing like the airbus where the tail just fell off over WA DC. Just fell off due to some turbulence. That is screwed up engineering. So what are you annealing just for fun. I would like to know. Cesare

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09/08/2014 1:58 AM

Please clarify this fan. If it is supplying combustion air, as Suresh's post suggests, then temperature is not an issue. But if is an internal circulating fan in the hot chamber, both the shaft and the blades must resist high temperature.

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09/08/2014 7:37 AM

Why should anyone bother with engineering details when unobtainium can do anything for anyone.

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09/10/2014 11:29 PM

I wanted to try unobtainium. But I could not obtain any.

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09/10/2014 11:41 PM

can you tell me where to obtain unobtainium as well as the salt form unobtainium Hydrocloride and of course some oxidized unobtainium oxide and lastly a dioxid non salt form unabtainium dioxide. I have found all forms of unobtainium to be unobtainable. If you have attainable unobtainium it would make us all very happy. I even had a Great Dane try to obtain all possible forms of unobtainium. Any help so as to help the man anealle some stuff. And where is Neal?? was he with Ana?

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09/11/2014 12:04 AM

as well as the salt form unobtainium Hydrocloride

This is incorrect as unobtainium can NEVER form a salt.

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09/11/2014 2:31 AM

" This is incorrect as unobtainium can NEVER form a salt. """ Can to, Can to, Can to I am telling. I am telling the man that wants to do some annealing AND I am telling Ann And Neal. And you hurt my feelings badly. I wept bitterly. I am feeling all weepy and neglected and I am telling Mom on you. You are a salt hater. We have no use for haters of salt on this forum of extreme and Noble talent.

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09/08/2014 5:30 AM

Firebrick.

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09/11/2014 2:19 AM

I got it. I liked it. I re read it. I like it that much. And I am planing on using it. Hope that is OK with you. If not OK then we can ask Ana and Neal. Cesare

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09/09/2014 12:11 AM

How long do you want it to last?

Please provide more information on your application, if not try tungsten.

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