Chelated Iron Powder

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You may have a misconception here. The chelating agent must be part of the mass to make the iron soluble in water.

Allow me to rephrase the question:

I am looking for chelated iron powder with nothing added except the chelating agent.

It used to be available in starter chemistry sets,but I cannot seem to find it in that form.

Maybe there is a more technical name for it.

Chemistry is not my strong suite,obviously.

I am glad to have access to experts in the field that are willing to give their time and

advice to a novice such as me,and I am grateful for all guidance from this forum.

try searching for 'sequestered iron' there were a few hits when I had a quick look.

May be James Stewart knows something about this.

What is the application, please?

http://www.amazon.com/Carl-Pool-CP104-Iron-Chelate/dp/B001SGXL56/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1JKE3RQ2K6CNDSYYZ2DF

Found this on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Carl-Pool-CP104-Iron-Chelate/dp/B001SGXL56

Not sure if it is pure or not.

Well said JNB. Simple polycarboxylic acids are the simple & best options, say citric acid or tri sodium citrate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXs_SG-F1m4 title : how to buy cheep chelated iron

According to their MSDS, which you can download here, Yates leaf greener is 100% chelated iron. Maybe that will work for you if it or a similar product is available where you reside.

Hi Spades,

It doesn't look to pure to me. Maybe the rest is water?

It says on the link "Iron (Fe) as lignosulfonate chelate 1.25%".

BAB

I saw that, but the MSDS has other ideas, so I thought it may be worth a look.

Maybe the MSDS only refers to the purity of the active ingredient.

I am aware that a German company by name Hoganas makes iron powder which is used for making iron powder cores for electrical applications. I also learnt that same powder is mixed with cornflakes and is filled in iron capsules we take as prescribed by doctors. May be you could interact with this company.

have you tried these folks?

www.advance-scientific.com

Try United Nuclear they have all matter of material for experimentation. Are we trying for (Thermite) to get rid of pesky critters?

To get rid of thermite all you have to do is add fire. It might not be the safest way to get rid of it but it sure is spectacular.

No thermite.It is intended for use in a new experimental type electrolyte.

Probably wont work,but I like to experiment.

I will probably make my own Chelated iron by using iron sulphate and sodium hydroxide.

I saw a process/procedure on line.

Looks fairly simple.

I just figured it would be easier to use a ready made product instead.

Did you check united nuclear, they do carry almost any thing you could ask for or they can get it for you. A friend has experimented with many products from them and they have almost anything you could ask for. Good hunting for a better battery electrolyteDuke

What would you be using to chelate it?

Just wondered as sequestering ability for some of these changes with the valence. Wonder if it would work for a nickel/iron battery.

Sodium EDTA.

Using enough suphuric acid to dissolve the iron sulphate,and adjusting Ph to around 5.5 - 6.0 with sodium hydroxide.

Is this for a Nickle Iron battery electrolyte

No.

After reviewing most of the posts, along with the gig from Kulas, I did a quick search related to what you are doing (I think):

http://www.google.com/patents/US4617244

excerpt: ..."

Coming under special consideration are the aliphatic amines containing up to 25 carbon atoms, and particularly the special alkylene amine alkanoic acids, such as for example, ethyleneamine acetic acids, such as diethylene diamine tetracetic acid, trimethylene diamine tetracetic acid, diethylene diamine tetrapropionic acid, and tetraethylene diamine tripropionic acid. Coming under particularly concern because of the superior results obtained therewith are the polyalkylene polyamine polyalkanoic acids containing up to 18 carbon atoms.

The iron salt used in the preparation of the iron chelates may be any suitable ferrous or ferric salt, such as a sulfate, oxalate, phosphate, citrate, phthalate, and the like, but is preferrable a ferrous salt, such as a sulfate, oxalate or citrate salt. Coming under special consideration is ferrous sulfate and its various forms such as ferrous sulfate heptahydrate.

The magnesium salt used in the preparation of the new additives of the present invention may be any suitable water soluble salt, such as magnesium sulfate, magnesium chloride, magnesium chromate, magnesium perchlorate, magnesium thiosulfate, and the like. Particularly preferred is magnesium sulfate and its various forms as now available."

Note: This is being provided based on the embodiment of the actual patented chemistry, and is not a suggestion to go out and usurp the technology.

You will probably want to try ferrous ammonium sulfate, and EDTA as a starting point, and also use EDTA for the magnesium chelate. The FAS is susceptible to oxidation at certain pH values (extremely low, or values where the complex is slightly labile, or at extremely high pH values where the ferric iron oxidation product wants to come out of solution at the hydrated oxide.

I suppose you will be experimenting on older batteries at first? Testing cold weather cranking amps? Charge rate is supposedly doubled by this technology. I wonder what it does for the life of the battery, as I failed to notice that mentioned.

Thanks for the feedback and link.

You have now sent me off on a tangent,after reviewing the patent.

Looks like the patent was expired due to failure to pay the maintenance

fee,unless I read that wrong.

Anyway, it is very interesting that this was an additive to existing electrolyte.

I wonder if it is available commercially.

It sounds great,but obviously he could not sell much of it or paying the first $400

maintenance fee would not have been a problem.

Inventing a great prodcut is one thing, and marketing is an entirely different thing.

I know from experience.

Anyway,thanks for the link and valuable insight.

Maybe they found out later on that the battery simply stopped working? I have no idea. Please do let us all know how your testing/experiments pan out....or are you planning a comeback for the tech as a start-up company?