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The Perfect Coffee Cup

Posted November 13, 2009 11:13 AM

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Using a new, high-tech material, German scientists Klaus Sedlbauer and Herbert Sinnesbichler have developed a coffee cup that will keep your drink at the optimum temperature for drinking. Phase change material (PCM) was already in use as a building and clothing material because of its temperature-regulating capability. Now it will keep your coffee from going cold! CM is able to absorb and maintain heat or cold for long periods of time. It melts when warmed and solidifies when cooled. Different PCMs have different melting points. If a hollow-framed mug were filled with PCM that becomes liquid at exactly 136.4 degrees Fahrenheit (the ideal drinking temperature for warm beverages) and the mug’s reservoir filled with a warm beverage, the PCM would absorb excess heat, bringing the liquid down to drinking temperature and keeping it there long enough for you to enjoy your coffee. Sedlbauer and Sinnesbichler are looking for a manufacturer and distributor for their coffee cup.

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11/13/2009 10:34 PM

alright......who took my $3259.49 coffee cup. I want it back immediately, this is not funny.

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11/14/2009 12:24 AM

What's this goofy business about "exactly 136.4°F"? Sez who?

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11/14/2009 12:01 PM

570 C

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11/14/2009 8:00 PM

How is 57°C any less arbitrary than 136.4°F? Same question: sez who? For instance, I hate coffee that stinkin' cold.

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The Perfect Cup of Coffee

11/14/2009 10:46 PM

What arbitrary temp do you like?

If the flesh peels off the roof of my mouth it's too hot, anything approaching my body temp is too cold.

The weaker it is the hotter it needs to be.

amendments ruin an otherwise good cup, doesn't have to be a fancy roast or blend, but good water is important.

& yes I'm trying to hijack a lackluster thread

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11/14/2009 11:20 PM

Maybe I'm just a total idiosyncrat, but Mom told me that even from birth I wanted my formula hot enough to require a pot-holder! In any event, I like hot stuff hot and cold stuff cold, with certain beers and wines at a bit less than room temperature. The weird thing about this discussion is that there should be some 0.1-degree-precise value that would cater to all tastes. But apparently some reporter was blinded by "science." That kinda bugs me.

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Re: The Perfect Cup of Coffee

11/15/2009 12:20 AM

Maybe I'm just a total idiosyncrat, but Mom told me that even from birth I wanted my formula hot enough to require a pot-holder!

What besides the temp [as yet to be defined] what make a good [or bad] cup?

I have a favorite hand made mug, decidedly not space age... holds 2 cups[0.4731765 liter]

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11/15/2009 1:41 AM

There you go--if you make a good cuppa anything, it might as well be a big one. Right now I am having a pot of lapsang souchong tea, 80°C+. To be sipped, not glugged.

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11/15/2009 11:25 AM

There ya go

The only tea for coffee drinkers!

Oh, joy!

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11/15/2009 11:33 AM

There goes the neighborhood! I can see Earl Grey crawling out from under the rocks.

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11/15/2009 11:49 AM

Thats Dorian, not Earl

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11/15/2009 11:51 AM

Can't quite picture that...

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11/15/2009 8:38 AM

Zing!

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11/15/2009 8:40 AM

Dang it Tornado.

Now Garthh is going to post , "The Blinded by Science Video"

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Re: The Perfect Cup of Coffee

11/15/2009 12:01 PM

As requested

My favorite on the road cup o joe

Dowe egbert

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great cup that holds the heat for hours, even a lid that works

great process brewed on demand machine

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11/15/2009 1:33 PM

, even a lid that works

hate that, you just have to learn that once.

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11/16/2009 2:54 AM

Garthh,

You are ol' reliable, I knew you would come through with the good stuff.

And,

My favorite on the road cup o joe

Dowe egbert

that coffee is great , and at the club I go to it's cheap, $1.50 for a 20 oz. cup, or in Celsius, £.895350 for a 159.998917764 dram cup. Or in Mariposian, $1.50 for a 7-finger cup.

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11/14/2009 12:05 PM

I like my coffee rather colder, let's say at 135.8, but not hotter than 135.9 ºF.

In fact, 136.4 means that someone translated that brief not only on a word-by-word basis, but (s)he also translated 58 ºC to Fahrenheit with all the figures a scrupulous conversion can afford for such an arbitrary value. Journals and movie captions are plagued of these blunders. For example, Russian submarine Kursk was once reported in some countries as sunk at 106.7 m depth, which seems to have been a bad translation for a rough estimate of 350 ft.

Dubbed or captioned movies overuse this fondness for "exact" translations. A suspect, having been seen just briefly in the darkness, can be described later as weighing about 81.72 kilos. And the following dialogue wouldn't cause any surprise:

(Lost driver addressing bored farmer)

-- How far is Whatthehellington from here?

-- Whatthehellington? Uh, I think 1609 meters, perhaps 2414.

(This is supposed to stand for one mile or one and a half)

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11/14/2009 8:56 AM

Using a new, high-tech material, German scientists Klaus Sedlbauer and Herbert Sinnesbichler have developed a coffee cup that will keep your drink at the optimum temperature for drinking

WÛNDERBAR!

Except that it utilizes the extremely ineffecient Fischer-Tropf process and requires an entire anti-aircraft division to protect it during deployment.

Feldwebel Packrat, auf

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But would it work here?

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WÛNDERBATH!

(What a perfect night for love)

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11/15/2009 8:44 AM

But would it work here?

Hey Babe,

Yes,as long as you are wearing your proper PPE, which, I believe from the photographic evidence, you are. harumph

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Re: The Perfect Sleep deprivation post tihingggggggggggZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

11/16/2009 3:35 AM

lovely lady ,languidly lingering in lukewarm lake cee-ment pond

Candygram for Mongo,

bedtime for Drongo.

3:33 am, more alliteration, must sleep, now

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Re: Episode# 45, The Tragedy of the Too Tiny Tintoretto

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As garrrrrrthhhhhh would say, bigger pictures , please.

Is that a shower curtain made of mosaic tile? FABULOUS!!!

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11/15/2009 9:00 AM

Hey all,

Since it appears that this thread is attracting all of the usual suspects, The Brits, Ozzies and Kiwis are all still apparently asleep, and/or hungover, I would like to make a modest proposal, that we hijack this thread and turn this sucker out, before the grownups back in bath breakingville discover it and try to take over. In the name of the Queen and run-on sentences, floor it Garthh and get in an insurmountable lead position, I'll take tail-end Charlie and run interference . Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

NO WE DID NOT!!!What the hell is packrat talking about? No idea, but we got us a convoy.

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11/15/2009 10:39 AM

Thank you, Hedley.

Now I have to clean the spewed java off the laptop. In case anyone is interested, it's kopi luwak enjoyed at 275 K.

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11/16/2009 12:25 AM

Think nothing of it, my pleasure.

In case anyone is interested, it's kopi luwak enjoyed at 275 K.

Huh, I thought it kinda looked like a star sapphire.

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11/16/2009 12:33 AM

You drongo, I meant my coffee.

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11/16/2009 1:00 AM

never mind that shit, Here comes DRONGO!

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11/15/2009 11:21 AM

I think we're safe as long as we don't mention tea.

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11/16/2009 1:02 AM

or the war.

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11/16/2009 1:15 AM

Obscure? Harrumph.

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Re:Sue nails it while enjoying a cup of cafe' machu picchu

11/16/2009 2:11 AM

I can always count on you to catch my pop flies.

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11/15/2009 11:29 AM

Don't think you can save it now that Sue has introduced...baths.

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11/15/2009 7:23 PM

Really...now that you mention it, I have a bath that I need to break. What was the ultimate 'best' method for that?

And despite being born in America, I have come to love a good cuppa. Tea with milk and two sugars please, TA my love!

Now, where did I put that box of PG tips...would go great with some toast. Hmmm marmalade or Marmite?

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11/15/2009 8:05 PM

No one gets off that easy. You must ATTEND BATH and serve your penance, just like the rest of us have. Be prepared to sacrifice a good part of your life to the thread. 46xx and counting.

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Uh 4700+

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Actually, I have read the majority of the infamous Bath posts. Very funny thread What I thought was funny was how often it got back on topic!

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11/16/2009 12:46 AM

Hey Jag,

Appreciate your vigilance , I was going to give you a good answer, but your post was off-topic rated. I don't see how it possibly could be off topic, as it contained no mention of coffee, cups or perfection. What's up wid dat?

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Just trolling.

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11/15/2009 8:31 PM

After much experimentation, I have perfected the bulk home extraction of the essence of tea which can be used cold or reheated to your preference.

  • 1 quart cold water in a heat proof vessel (32 oz. Pyrex measuring cup)
  • 2 tablespoons loose tea (any style) in a mesh tea ball (large tea balls available at Wal Mart cheap)
  • heat in microwave until temperature reaches 180oF +0, -5, (in mine, that's 9 minutes on high)
  • let steep 3-5 minutes then strain into a container while hot to maintain relatively sterile conditions and refrigerate (spent tea suitable for compost pile)

The tea will keep for days refrigerated and will not be cloudy as long as you didn't exceed 180oF. That's when the nasty oils become soluble. I take mine with a little sugar, a tablespoon of lemon juice and a teaspoon of chopped ginger. Spirits optional.

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11/16/2009 12:36 AM

Hmmm marmalade or Marmite?

Well, in my unlearned opinion and seeing that you have a motor scooter, I would suggest the marmite, which can do double duty as a field expedient #1 Permatex gasket substitute and also, suprisingly, as a food substitute.

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11/15/2009 10:18 PM

You know, I already have the "perfect coffee cup". It's a Thermos Nissan, holds 14 ounces (a bit more than 400ml), and can keep a cup of coffee or tea piping hot for hours. I bought the thing for $.50 at a church rummage sale, though you can get one like it from Amazon.com for less that 17 US dollars. Anybody care to bet what these PCM coffee cups would cost?

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11/16/2009 3:07 AM

Not a lot of people know this, but Beethoven insisted that his coffee was made with exactly 60 beans to the cup.

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11/17/2009 3:33 AM

<...Not a lot of people know this...>

What about Maurice Micklethwaite Michael Caine?

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11/16/2009 6:31 PM

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Now I know how John Dg feels when he wakes up and starts wondering where everyone went, except in my case it's usually a matter of wondering where my pants went.

I'm bored, are we there yet?

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Are we there yet?

No!

Are we there yet?

If you don't be quiet it will take longer to get there.

Why?

Just because.

Because why?

Because I said so.

Why?

Because if you don't shut your freakin' pie hole and keep it shut , I'm going to take you back to the Albanian human traffickers we bought you from and trade you for a bottle of cheap bourbon and a pool boy from a Turkish prison.

Jeez, Grandma , take a chill pill.

Wonder if I can stick this paper clip in one side of this electrical receptacle withou AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH , nope guess not.


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I WILL GRIND YOUR BONES TO MAKE MY BREAD MR PACKRAT WHAT?

You are well past due for your medications and you are frightening, again as usual the other inmatMEDS MEDS GIMMEE GIMMEE GIMMEE

There , there, that's a good Drongo ,

huh? What?

I said that's a good Packrat

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Re: The Prefect Stream of Con-ness, or coffee ,or peas .What are you lookin

11/16/2009 7:06 PM

"You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell else are you talkin' to? You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here. Who the f*** do you think you're talking to?"

Are you talking to me or chewing a brick?

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Re: The Prefect Stream of Con-ness, or coffee ,or peas .What are you lookin

11/16/2009 7:26 PM

SWEET , TRAVIS!

Now I have something to do, figure out who's pulling the strings, maybe your distinctive tattoos will provide a clue.

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May I have some more please?

11/16/2009 7:11 PM

I don't think that rises the the level of consiousness

trickle of blather

or maybe

here

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11/16/2009 8:07 PM

Three, good pithy and insightful links, I agree

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11/16/2009 8:15 PM

I just wish I could figure out to do a more comprehensive satanistical analysis of the breaking of the bath

I love it when a good typo comes together

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Re: The Perfect Coffee Cup

12/05/2009 9:58 AM

To hell with the damn coffee cup.

Something has to be said, so I'll say it , The Doors and Jim Morrison sucked.

Thats write , I said it.

They had one good song, "Land Ho", everything else was crap.

Come on sheeple, wake up, smell the urine.

Listen to something good, Like The Rentals "friend Of P"

For the love of God and the sake of all humanity.

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12/05/2009 10:37 AM

Man that guest, what a colossal douche hammer, eh?

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12/05/2009 11:55 AM

These guests are really getting out of hand with their scrofulous sentiments.

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Re: The Perfect Coffee Cup

12/05/2009 11:58 AM

I am beside myself

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12/05/2009 12:04 PM

See what I mean? See what I mean? (say everything twice say everything twice)

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12/05/2009 12:10 PM

Hello? Hello?

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Stereoptican stereoptican or or GAF Viewmaster GAF viewmaster

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you are just a turrible turrible person <splutter java drool>

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Dead thread bed check

12/11/2009 5:40 PM

Well, Packrat thought while sniffing the dust covered coffee cup, nobody has been here in a while. Reading these posts , CR4-ers must think I'm nuts,

just keep talking and you will erase all doubt.

Who said that,

You did , you Mongolfier, your talking to yourself, not only talking to yourself, you're posting, again apparently to yourself, there is something really, really wrong with you.

Shut up, shut up get out of my head,

Okay, loser, now your shouting at yourself, what's that in your hand , a fork, remember last time you tried to get rid of me by sticking a common kitchen utensil in your head? How 'd that work out for you?

Don't bother I'm leaving, later drongo

I thought he'd never leave, now should i delete this, naw I'm sure everyone has unsubscribed , just in case , let's see I don't see delete button, hmm.,submit, ah , must mean like submit to my will, I will you to disappear, Boink.

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Never did hear much about coffee!

12/11/2009 5:53 PM

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Wow, now that's impressive, Never did hear much about coffee!

12/11/2009 6:19 PM

Hey Edgebrother, see you have been productively engaged this afternoon, why don't you pop over and help me fix this f***ing well/pump/soaker hose piece of WWL sh*t thing I cobbed together. I'm about ready to judo chop it into next week.

See if I can dig up a snapshot

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Look yet another back channel

12/11/2009 6:55 PM

compose copy paste repeat

my favorite joke for a 3-10 year old

Me: Pete & Repeat were on a boat, Pete fell off & who was left?

Little Kid: Repeat

Me: Pete & Repeat were on a boat, Pete fell off & who was left?

Little Kid: Repeat

Me: Pete & Repeat were on a boat, Pete fell off & who was left?

Little Kid: Repeat

While I'm telling bad jokes...

say you have a brother Jack & he get's stuck on a horse

would you help your brother

Jack Off?

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12/11/2009 11:08 PM

That's too funny , that's one of those jokes that has been bouncing around in my head for forty plus years , occassionally I Make the mistake of telling it, I am rewarded , not with a smile, but usually a mystified look, like what is the matter with you?

It's companion joke is : I know a carpenter with a wooden leg named Pete, do you know Him? I don't know, what's the name of his other leg.

Sometimes you just have to find the right audience. Had a Jamaican room mate , him , me and another Jamaican were doing some construction work, waiting in the truck for the rain to stop , somehow I found myself telling the chicken crossing the road joke, they'd never heard it , man , I trotted out all the ones I could think of , fireman wearing red suspenders, all the way back to kindergarten. It was like I was Jesus at the Sermon on the Mount Comedy Club, They were actually pondering what I was saying , "'im say the bumba clot chicken cross the road to get dem utter side" HUH!

Fun times

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12/11/2009 6:37 PM

As my daughter says to her best friends: "You have no friends - you're a loser - go home".

Home is where you hang your hat.
Home is where your heart is.
Home is where the heat/cool is.
Home is the crawl-space.
... I'm nuts, just keep talking and you will erase all doubt.

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That was fun, and Christmas-y

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