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Get Warriors' Input for New Technology

Posted December 11, 2009 8:37 AM by Sharkles

U.S. Army soldiers recently voted for the "Top Ten Great Inventions of 2008" deployed in that year. Offhand it seems like their input would be invaluable in developing new concepts for communications, weapons-control systems, improved armor, etc. Does anyone know if their input is routinely conveyed to the upper echelon who request specific battlefield technology? Should the soldiers whose job it is to fight be a contributing source in developing new battlefield technology?

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12/11/2009 11:46 AM

More warriors and technologies are required for the battle against man made evils and global problems. Arms, Ammunitions and guns should vanish as past history.

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12/11/2009 11:00 PM

I work for the Defense Information Systems Agency, in the US, Department of Defense. We daily ask the warfighters, with whom we sit at our desks, and via teleconferencing, what it is they need in the way of communications, and computation capabilities. I understand that this is not beans, bombs and bullets, but it is, nonetheless, in this information age, a true "force multiplier". At least, that is what the field grade officers and senior non-commissioned with whom we (and I personally) speak every day tell us. In fact, I cannot speak for other agencies, but with a limited budget, if they do not ask for it, or tell us when asked that they want it (when the idea comes from us to them, instead of the other way around) we don't design, build, or field it.

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12/12/2009 12:12 AM

You need to be gathering info from the E-5's and below, they are the warfighters. Officers and senior staff NCO's are not always in-touch with the needs of the guys actually humping the equipment.

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12/12/2009 11:56 AM

That is my argument, also, but I work for the Washington Bureaucracy, and have learned not to push the officers and upper level GSes to ask advice of people beneath their notice. It isn't QUITE that bad, as we DO work with the 5's and below, but we WORK with them, and their opinions don't get listened to very much at all. In fact, when we instituted a feedback box so that the guys in the field could give us their opinions directly, I was directed, over my objections (I AM a 13, but I'm also a 9 year Navy vet, Vietnam era, who got out as an E-6. I've been where you are talking about, and haven't forgotten it.) to limit access to Field grade officers and above. Basically, no one below an O-3 could comment, because "we don't have the manpower and time to read all the e-mails we'd collect from the lower ranks".

I don't like it, but I will continue anyway, because most of the time, the Captains and LTs we do take our daily time with can give us good modifiers to the ideas of the upper levels. At least we get some Company Grade input, anyway.

One of my sons once said that Politics is a great system of doing things. Its the people who mess it up.

Ditto the feedback loops we work in. But its better than giving the warfighters nothing.

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12/13/2009 10:05 AM

That's all good stuff for the vehicles described. But very little of it could be used in the jungle or rice paddies I pounded in 67-68, where soldiers were the main weapons carrier. The Huey gunships, artillery, and air strikes, were often too late to be effective. The Morters we (I personally) carried were not effective in the field.

I think a man portable GPS backtrace for incoming fire would be about the best solution there.

That will be 2 cents please.

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12/14/2009 10:26 AM

Having recently returned from Iraq, I can tell you that Soldiers' input is not only listened to, but requested, on a regular basis.

The Army uses a tool called an After Action Review (AAR) where the question groups are:

  1. What went/worked well?
  2. What did not go/work well?
  3. What improvement can be made?

On previous deployments, when I was a lower enlisted in a line platoon, I thought they were a waste of time. Every month or two we'd be told that we had to conduct an AAR on our dust goggles, or the gunner-restraint system, or some other item. We'd do it, turn them in and then never hear anything back about it.

This most recent deployment, I was the Operations Sergeant so I got a little better perspective. Directives to conduct equipment-based AARs come from higher up then I had visibility on and we are instructed to take the AAR down to the individual solder level. Each squad rolls up their results, then the platoon rolls up the squad's results, then Operations rolls up the platoon's results and we send them up to Battalion, who sends them to Brigade, who sends them to Corps, etc...

Long story short... the concerns of the individual soldier are represented in the report, or information, that field-grade officer is providing an equipment manufacturer or designer.

The military has a very structured way of compiling information in a timely manner. The 4-star theater commander can tell his Executive Officer that he wants suggestions on dust goggles improvements and by 10am the next morning every team chief in Iraq is asking Joe Private what improvements can be made to his dust goggles. By the end of the week, the theatre commander has a top 3 hit list for each category... likes, dislikes, improves.

Now that I have been in for quite some time, the reply to the AARs I didn't see back when I was Joe Private, I see now and have a better understanding of length of the timeline it takes to solicit improvement suggestions, compile them, choose a design, award a contract, proto-type, test, mass-produce, field...

If you are reading this and work for a military contractor, know this... the input of the individual soldier is solicited and is the foundation of the information you are getting.

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12/14/2009 10:56 AM

GA, excellent response to the question. You hit the nail right on the head.

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12/14/2009 11:41 AM

You got my GA. Thank you. I work for DISA on the NCES program, which provides all sorts of Intel and commo capabilities to you guys over there. We are continuously told that what we build and field is in response to your needs, and I believed it, before. But your answer is "from the horses mouth" so to speak, and gives me a better view of the reality. Thanks for all your service to all of us.

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