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Robotic Undersea Vehicle Draws Power From Ocean

Posted April 06, 2010 8:58 AM

From CNET News.com:

Autonomous vehicle built by NASA, U.S. Navy, and academic researchers cruises through a three-month demo, drawing power only from variations in sea temperatures.

Researchers say they've taken underwater robotics to the next level, successfully running an autonomous robotic vehicle off the Hawaiian Islands for more than three months, powered only by energy harnessed from changes in sea temperatures.

The Sounding Oceanographic Lagrangrian Observer Thermal RECharging vehicle (or Solo-Trec, for short) is the product of a years-long joint research project by NASA, the U.S. Navy, and Scripps Institution of Oceanography, and the University of California at San Diego. The group said Monday that Solo-Trec is the first such vehicle to be powered entirely by the ocean's thermal energy.

Solo-Trec works by taking advantage of temperature changes as it moves between warmer, shallower areas to the cooler temperatures found in the depths. It's outfitted with 10 external tubes of a waxy substance known as phase-change material. In the warmth of the shallow waters, the substance melts and expands; in deeper waters, it cools, solidifies, and contracts. The expansion caused by warm temperatures pressurizes oil inside the device, which drives a hydraulic motor that, in turn, recharges Solo-Trec's batteries. This system has allowed the 183-pound vehicle to make more than 300 dives from the ocean's surface to a depth of 1,640 feet--as well as powering its buoyancy controls and scientific, GPS, and communication instruments.

"People have long dreamed of a machine that produces more energy than it consumes and runs indefinitely," said NASA's Jack Jones, a Solo-Trec co-principal investigator, in a statement. "While not a true perpetual motion machine, since we actually consume some environmental energy, the prototype system demonstrated by [NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory] and its partners can continuously monitor the ocean without a limit on its lifetime imposed by energy supply."

For now, Solo-Trec is a prototype; its main function is to help scientists evaluate the potential for powering future research vessels in the same way. But NASA says the same technology could be used to create a fleet of autonomous bots capable of cruising the seas and monitoring anything from climate data and marine life to mapping terrain and conducting underwater surveillance.

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04/06/2010 9:14 AM

No data were given in this article to show how probes or collectors might be extended from an underwater vessel in order to take advantage of thermal gradients in a body of water. This is theoretically possible, but the practicalities are quite limited. This lack of quantitative information inspires little confidence, and the manner of expression in this article suggests a lack of relevant arithmetic. (Maybe the numbers are there, but the article does not convey this.)

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04/06/2010 10:48 AM

I'm sorry, but I think you're being a bit too critical. Certainly the article lacked a rigid mathematical background and it didn't extrapolate its science to cover all manner of underwater objects, but it didn't appear that that was its objective.

Sometimes an article is published to showcase an item. That appears to be the case here.

For someone who is interested in gaining more information on this probe, the article has provided more than sufficient sources for further investigation.

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04/07/2010 12:04 AM

Hi BDThompson,

For someone who is interested in gaining more information on this probe, the article has provided more than sufficient sources for further investigation.

I disagree, unless I just couldn't find the sources.

An internet search produced (among others):

http://solo-trec.jpl.nasa.gov/SOLO-TREC/

and

http://www.space.gs/news2/?p=298

The first was like an abstract and the second gave quite a bit more information. However, there were no links provided in the featured article.

If you have other links with more information, I would really like to see them.

Mike

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04/06/2010 4:13 PM

I think this is way cool! even if they didn't provide numbers. I believe they did say it has external piping to capture the difference in temperature which suggests to me it doesn't extend probes to have one in a hot layer and one in a cold layer at the same time rather it dives up and down through the warm and cooler layers to get the needed temperature differential over time. Since it has made over 300 dives (if they are to be believed) that kinda proves it works. I'd love to know how much excess power it has after all the power it needs just to control its motion and navigation. Its practical applications maybe limited but it can still be an elegant engineering design to be admired and just plain cool!

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04/06/2010 10:49 PM

Take this as it clearly is: a press release from NASA et al. If you want an article, go find a journal. They are doing good things, pushing technology, and it is interesting stuff. Relax, enjoy the little press release, and go find more substantial information in a library.

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04/07/2010 11:10 AM

Sounds like technology borrowed from the ancient Greeks.

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04/06/2010 10:52 PM

One word: Paragraphs!

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04/07/2010 11:49 AM

One great thing about reading CR4 threads is that there is lots to learn and sometimes very fascinating reads. When I first read this thread, I thought if we can charge batteries with phase change materials and operate mini-subs, why can't we expand that knowledge and run our cars that way. Well it seems we can. Experiments with a Prius have been successful. (Of course you can't stop a Prius from charging anyway). Maybe this will be a good idea bought forward to operate and charge lots of things. I am not sure of the weight issue that could compromise the idea.

What the hell is "paragraph"? Is that some newfangled idea to lessen the energy burned to read? Gd txers nevr wast wrds so enrg is svd.

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04/07/2010 12:26 PM

I c tht paragrfs hav bn add :)

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04/07/2010 1:35 PM

Wax? Why not use aluminum to transfer the heat outside to a 'radiator' so it can be dispersed into the air? No weight.

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