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Kitchen Renovations, Part 1

Posted April 30, 2010 9:00 AM by frankd20

Planning an Attack

They say updating kitchens and bathrooms can increase the value of your home the most. While this is likely true, its not why I re did my kitchen. For me, the main reason was that it was out of date; it had been styled to look like the 50s, but since had fallen apart in many ways. In other words, the old kitchen had to go.

The first step in renovating a kitchen is to figure out what you want. My main goal was to make it nice, keep the price down, and purchase stuff off the shelf so I didn't have to wait for anything.

What I wanted was simple as I liked the layout of the existing kitchen, just not the style. So, I kept the same basic layout and only made a few minor changes. I settled on some simple white cabinets, but wasn't sure what to do with the floor or countertop.

What Lies Beneath?

My main dilemma was that I didn't know if I had hardwood floor somewhere under my existing kitchen floor. If I did have a hardwood floor that was restorable, than that is what I wanted to do; if not, I was thinking about tile. This was important to find out, because what I did with the floor would change what I did with the countertop.

The existing floor in my kitchen was a vinyl sheet that I put down a number of years ago. The vinyl floor was on top of plywood; however, it was obvious that the floor in my kitchen was raised almost an inch above the surrounding rooms. The mystery was finding out what was under that plywood, and if it was something I could use.

Destruction & Discovery

The first real job with the kitchen was the destruction part. Although many seem to like this part, I find the destruction to be one of the hardest parts of the job. Taking the old stuff down without damaging anything important is not always as easy as hitting it with a sledge hammer. In fact, I don't know if in any of my home projects if I've ever used a sledge hammer, except for a bathtub.

I began to remove the old cabinets, which were built-in, made from plywood, and the back of the cabinets was the wall. The walls in the kitchen were covered in paneling that was designed to look like tile. Under the paneling was a thin layer of plywood. One of the design changes I did make was to remove the valence; for my kitchen, I felt it took up a lot of space that could be used for storage or to just make the room feel bigger.

Once the top cabinets were gone, I went to work on the bottom ones. These were a mix of plywood and one was metal. As I removed the plywood base cabinets that were built-in, I saw that the cabinets went down below the plywood floor. Once I exposed the floor below, I got my first glimmer of hope -- hardwood.

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04/30/2010 11:50 AM

I'm looking forward to pictures of your finished product. You're correct about the 1950s - my last home had what looks like the same 50s green "tile" on its kitchen walls. Its kitchen was last renovated in the 50s.

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04/30/2010 3:24 PM

I am not really sure when my kitchen had been last renovated. Based on the materials used I actually think it might of been done after the 50's but was styled to look like the 50's. The green tile on the wall was not tile at all, just panelling (wainscoting to some of you) that looks like it.

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04/30/2010 1:18 PM

Did ours a few years back...went through agonies trying to choose work top.
In the end we had stuff which looked like the old stuff...but better quality.
We had nice old quarry tiles under one part of the floor, but as the kitchen goes through into an extension they didn't run right through.
Put down, cheapish lamiate flooring in the end, it looks like big tiles but isn't as hard or as cold.
One of the best things I did was fit a big vertical 'designer look' radiator in a much better position than the old one.
I wish I'd gone for a bigger gas hob with a nice big Wok burner .
Mind Mrs Cat is hinting that it needs doing again...what? Already.
I used cheap units but nice wood doors and a good ish quality worktop...granite would have been nice but waaaay to expensive.
I s'pose the trick is to decide which bits you want to spend the money on....maybe a cheap sink but an expensive tap (faucet?Fawcett?Whatever...shrugs....)
Nice details can make all the difference.

(I hope 'honey' is helping, it's fun to do stuff together...and that way it's not all your fault if she doesn't like it)
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04/30/2010 1:45 PM

The honey did help with this doing, mostly on the cleanup. Actually the kitchen has been done for 4 or 5 months now and already gotten heavy use. Just didn't get around to posting it till now.

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04/30/2010 3:04 PM

Awww, you've spoiled the ending now!
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04/30/2010 3:19 PM

Don't worry, I got 5 more parts to this, and even with that I didn't cover everything that was done. I am not really one for surprises, I get enough of those just doing the projects.

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05/01/2010 9:05 AM

I used to work with a feller who made concrete countertops, for restaurants and private homes. The concrete can be colored, it can have inclusions, and be polished. Those countertops wouldn't be as durable as granite - but they're indoors - and they look very nice.

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Yeah, I've seen that stuff, it's cool.
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05/01/2010 1:01 AM

Hello All,

I have never fathomed the "WHY" of these projects. I, as mere male, previous Lt. Col., USAF (now very MARRIED) AND a heck of a lot of civilian affiliations just figure this goes into the Channel 44 Category of "giiter-Done". Small budgets and equal time frames are pretty much the clue!

Hokay!: How much does your household make per hour/week/month?

After necessities, that is your discretionary budget!

Great! What's your project? You might have some money to do this..

Here is the BIG DRILL: Do Two Things:

Figure our the total scope of what you want to accomplish (A Bathroom)?

And, THEN, break it down into workable increments that can be accomplished in SPECIFIC timeframes (work weeks, months and other). These are simple tasks such as: "break out tile" that progress to "level all flooring" .. .. Get it?

What, sometimes, amazes me about this forum, is that we are engineers by nature, and do not take that same process into our own lives. Just think...

Oh, and the THREE elements: FORM, FIT, FUNCTION >>>

Aw Shucks, and I have to talk to the County DA Later in the week...

Best on 'ya'

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05/03/2010 6:20 PM

I love these projects! I have learned over the years that they become a solution to a mystery: Why did that fool do that? How come this is here? What is under there? On, and on, and on...

I also figured out that you can only do so much in a pay period worth of side work. If you are in no particular hurry (Kitchen is probably an exception), your budget is the amount of money you can scrape out of a paycheck, then work on that stuff until the next check, etc. If you don't like what you can get for the budget, wait a second pay period, and step up to the higher tier stuff! I never skimp on the materials, since you are saving a bundle on the installation by doing it yourself.

Also, if you get to a point where you are unsure what to do, assess the situation and let the engineer kick in. If you can't get in much trouble charge ahead and learn something. Otherwise, if it looks like looming disaster, shut the work-sight down (or simply shift a different direction) and call in a consultant (Daddy!!!!). You will still learn something (yes he is not the dummy you thought in high school), but it comes at a greater cost (beer or lawn mowing favors). Usually he will roll up his sleeves and you get a sub-contractor out of the deal, but the cost is higher (splitting fire wood)...

Either way you get an appreciation for the contractors you work with every day.

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