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Earth, Wind and Hydro

Posted June 02, 2010 11:00 AM by april05

...Who's fooling who: here's the FIRE (Deepwater Horizon style).

Click image at right to stream a CBC Radio report I heard this past weekend emphasizing the use of protective respirators in the cleanup. -->

Wish I could disconnect what's currently going on in the Gulf of Mexico from this blog piece, but I think that would be impossible.

You see, in a previous life, I was a Mechanical Engineer working directly for the U.S. Federal Government. A very small fish on the federal "GS" pay-scale totem poll, for sure. However, one of my small-fry ideas, a Small Business Innovation Request (SBIR) proposal I came up with back in 2006 - intended by me to help my military laboratory under consideration for the federal "BRAC" closure list stay open and relevant - was to develop technology useful to private companies to assist in the safe undersea extraction of increasingly hard-to-get oil.

I organized multiple meetings - involving myself and my senior colleagues - where an expert, an engineer with multiple U.S. patents who had formerly worked for Shell Oil Company (a Dutch guy who had moved to Florida for the nice weather) - pitched technology to us that had been tweaked and proven during exploration and successful drilling of oil off the coast of Nigeria. At the same time, I was also (and still am) a member of the New York State Green Party, in large part, for environmental reasons.

Click on Real Player undersea image for British Petroleum's live stream from the Gulf of Mexico (pun definitely intended!).

Hydro, Baby, Hydro!

My personal path to green stems first from a youthful Apollo-era fascination with outer space and NASA's energy conservation technology on spacecraft. Later, exchange-student friends during high school in the early 80's - from Germany, Yugoslavia, Denmark, and Sweden - and later visits to their homes across Europe, gave me a strong understanding of how differently energy is consumed in the U.S. versus abroad.

Knowing these energy consumption differences informed my listening as James Besha, President of Albany Engineering Corporation, gave his May 6th Troy, New York presentation, "Hydroelectric Power: Lessons from the Past, Models for the Future".

<-- Until 1989: Ford Motor Company's Green Island Radiator & Spring Plant. James Besha shared a story of Charles Steinmetz and Henry Ford camping-out nearby and deciding to locate Ford's hydro-powered facility here.

Over thirty attendees - comprised of working and retired engineers and scientists (including GlobalSpec.com colleagues), Hudson Valley Community College (HVCC) engineering-science students, college faculty, as well as interested members of the public - were on-hand for Mr. Besha's fascinating 1.5 hour presentation, which followed a dinner social for most of those in attendance. I personally organized this PDH-credit (for licensed Civil and Mechanical engineers) event, as part of my ongoing service commitment to the Hudson-Mohawk section of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME H-M).

During his presentation, Jim - a native of the Albany region - described multiple New York Capital Region projects he and his company have worked on or plan to. They span as far south as Styvesant Falls (near Hudson), and northward to Mineville (near Lake Champlain). Included were the Mechanicville Hydroelectric Plant (3 MW w/ plans to upgrade to 17 MW), Styvesant Falls (Kinderhook Creek - 1.8 million KWH), Green Island Hydroelectric Plant (Former Ford Radiator Plant), Cohoes Falls (100 MW), and Mineville.

Many of these plants, along with their integrated mechanical technology like water turbines and generators, were built over 100 years ago, and retain much of their original mechanical components. Metal shafts with over a billion mechanical cycles - manufactured per an engineer's 100+ year vision - amazingly continue to function and produce clean power for their communities, a testament to the far-sighted vision of American mechanical designers of the late 1800's / early 1900's. Jim pointed out that many Capital Region hydroelectric plants were abandoned in the early-to-mid 1900's, as newer technologies like coal and oil power became more popular for larger populations and more centralized power production. Only now is there a renewed interest in restoring many of these abandoned sites.

Unfinished American Business of the Early 1970s

Just a week and a half before Jim's hydro presentation, the Deepwater Horizon explosion occurred in the Gulf of Mexico. This coincidence, from what I observed, definitely focused everyone's minds during the presentation, and may have accounted for our good attendance.

Jim's presentation was a bit of Back to the Future for me, since technology from the past, like a hydro-powered, electrified street trolley (with a third exposed rail) between Styvesant Falls and Rensselaer County, is being talked about again in 2010!

During Jim's talk, I couldn't help but be reminded of 1973. In response to the first (first in my personal memory) Oil Crisis, the U.S. government's response was to use NASA to develop technology capable of weaning the U.S. off of imported oil. Skylab - the International Space Station's technological parent - used solar panels intended to serve as prototype examples for spin-off technologies folks would soon see integrated into their own homes.

Sadly, this never really scaled up the way folks promoting this technology in the seventies had hoped. Cheap imported oil that lasted from the 1980's until recently explains this for the most part. However, with the recent spike of $5 gas at the pumps, there is renewed interest.

The Way Forward for Jobs & Energy?: An Upstate New York Community College prepares a 21st Century Workforce

Fast forward to 2008, and the perfect storm of high oil prices, a teetering economy, and a declining New York and U.S. manufacturing base. Investors from around the world, including billions of dollars from New York State taxpayers, take a large bet on the future and see alternative energy development and semiconductor chip fabrication as the way forward.

TEC-SMART stands for "Training and Education Center for Semiconductor Manufacturing and Alternative and Renewables Technologies".

Hudson Valley Community College (Troy, New York) builds and co-locates its "TEC-SMART" satellite training facility in a location near to AMD / GlobalFoundries private chip fabrication project in Malta, New York.

Click on images to launch YouTube videos of CR4's blog team touring the TEC-SMART facility in Malta, New York.

- Larry Kelley

Resources:

http://sections.asme.org/hudson-mohawk/2010_May_Newsletter_v3.pdf

British Petroleum's "Live Stream"

"Keeping Them Honest" - CNN's Anderson Cooper: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/

BP Disaster discussion at BBC World Service's One Planet radio program

http://www.albanyengineering.com/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/watervliet.htm

https://www.hvcc.edu/tecsmart/

CR4 Tours TEC-SMART (Part 1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_oYvbLBTR8

CR4 Tours TEC-SMART (Part 2): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCu-_4eSnfo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalfoundries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Island,_New_York#Green_Island_Power_Authority

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_lab

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

Marine Biologist & Exxon Valdez Disaster Expert Dr. Riki Ott interviewed for the May 30th broadcast of CBC Radio's The Sunday Edition program

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06/04/2010 2:14 PM

Thanks for these interesting links!

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No problem Tornado! Thank you for checking out my blog piece - I'm grateful. - Larry

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06/06/2010 3:21 AM

Not only this piece, but you have announced a number of interesting talks. I did a year of post-graduate work at Cornell in 1970-71, and if I were still in the area, I would seek out some of the events you have mentioned.

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06/05/2010 11:26 PM

the highest goodness resembles water

water greatly benefits myriad things without contention

it stays in places that people dislike

therefore it is similar to the Tao

Tao Te Ching Chapter 8

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06/06/2010 12:54 AM

Micro hydro, while being cute and interesting, is no answer to any large scale energy requirement. Try to permit large scale hydro today and the greens will go nuts! The gulf thing is happening - it will go away in time and everyone will wonder at how quickly thing returned to 'normal'. The Deepwater Horizon incident is a bad thing but part of life.

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06/06/2010 10:07 AM

Hi Russ - Thank you for your comments. I agree, hydro (including micro-) won't answer all our needs. However, it's definitely part of the solution. Also, during his presentation, Jim Besha cited a project his company had taken over from another in the Pacific Northwest (I think the Seattle region). The original company never consulted with the environmental community, and as a consequence, ended up with a design that endangered a protected fish specie. Jim's approach was to consult - while developing engineering requirements - with environmentalists, Native American tribes, as well as commercial interests. As a result, he was able to complete the project with minimal resistance, generate clean electricity, and have buy-in from *all* the stakeholders. More work up-front, but long-term benefit to the wider community. The majority of "Greens" in the world are quiet, intelligent folks who've never attended a protest rally. - Larry

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06/06/2010 10:31 AM

@ april05 - Found the project you mentioned and it is interesting. Twin Falls Hydroelectric Waterway: South Fork Snoqualmie Location: North Bend, King County, Washington Capacity: 20 MW Client: Twin Falls Hydro Associates Twin Falls was built entirely underground, using advanced mining and construction methods. It was constructed beneath a protected natural park. ********** Their projects are interesting but with a total of 93mW capacity that is less than one frame 9 GE turbine. İt helps but is not too significant. Most normal people are interested in the environment but when İ use the term 'green' İ mean to say the protesting greenpeace type of people that have little use for factual information but do a lot of ranting and raving.

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06/06/2010 2:54 PM

Hi Russ - Checked Albany Engineering's web site and Wikipedia: you identified the correct project Jim Besha made reference to during his presentation in Troy. As far as the non-scientific & possibly vanity-driven element to the green movement, think I know who you had in mind:

<-- Clickable image courtesy BBC News' web site. Have loved their music though, ever since U2's War album.

(Could have sworn, during my MTV viewing days of the 80's and early 90's, also seeing Irish rockers U2 aboard a protest ship (The Rainbow Warrior I?) in similar hazmat suits, but in some body of European water, but couldn't find an image or YouTube video in my searches just now.)

Agreed: Hydro is a tiny part of the energy solution - along with bio-fuels, solar, wind, conservation, and even nuclear, but obviously, during a tragedy like we're experiencing in the Gulf of Mexico, we need to get very serious about this now. It's been a long time since 1973 and Richard Nixon talking about this.

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06/06/2010 5:01 AM

Unfortunately, Hydro is not always as "green" as people want to believe, nor are solar or wind sources. Here in Panama, where appropriate sites for Hydro installations are getting harder and harder to find, it takes about 5 hectares of land to generate 1 megawatt of electricity- that is land that either subtracts from agriculturally productive areas, or destroys rain forest, and one winds up with a significant increase in methane emissions due to decomposing vegetable matter. Wind energy requires about 50 hectares to generate 1 megawatt, assuming one can find a suitable site. Solar energy requires about 20 hectares of land to produce 1 Megawatt. There was recently an article published by a power company in Florida regarding a solar installation in conjunction with a gas-fired power plant (unfortunately, I am away from home base at present and do not have access to a link to this particular article), with a picture that shows very clearly the difference between real estate requirements for solar and for fossil fuel alternatives. Land used for hydro, solar or wind generation is very difficult to use for much of anything else.

Extracting energy from the environment is going to be costly, no matter what one does. Fossil fuels are used extensively for a reason- specifically, they provide the highest energy concentration of any source (with the exception of nuclear)- sort of a long-term storage battery for solar/geothermal energy. As time goes on, this advantage may be eroded, but, so far, no one has figured out how to beat the numbers.

"Greens" need to pay attention to the down sides of their "flavor of the day" energy solutions, if the want to be effective in bringing about change. Every alternative is going to have a negative environmental impact. The best solutions are going to be those that provide the best trade-off between cost and environmental impact.

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