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Wanted: Discreet Scanners

Posted December 01, 2010 7:00 AM

Security vs privacy... Technical prowess in the form of sophisticated scanners for airline passengers has created firestorms of protest. Will new technologies overcome current limitations anytime soon? What can be done to improve airline security without sacrificing privacy?

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12/01/2010 11:19 AM

Please edit the title: "Discreet" would be better in this context.

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12/01/2010 3:16 PM

LOL.

Yeah, the headline implies they want scanners that work on each individual, separately.

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12/01/2010 2:42 PM

I heard by email that the TSA is trying to improve their image with a calendar.

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12/01/2010 4:03 PM

Hey, nice bone structure!

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Re: Wanted: Discreet Scanners

12/01/2010 11:29 PM

No scanner on the planet now or in the future that does not violate a person's fourth amendment will make a bit of difference if someone wanted to bring down an airliner. the only workable solution is to start separating the wheat from the chaff early on in the process and only focus on those individuals who fit a specific profile. issue "get out of scanner free" cards (similar to TWIC cards for offshore workers.) to those people who have voluntarily gone through a thorough background check. those people pass through the magnetometer with minimal screening.

airline tickets already require a DL and a major credit card to purchase anyway, so there is already a wealth of information that the TSA can glean from those databases available to them. and most are purchased weeks or months in advance, giving the TSA LOTS of time to run a background check on them. these people get somewhat more scrutiny. odd behavior during check-in or out of character/unusual financial transaction history or email/telephone history, or association with known or suspected terrorist organizations might be a sign. third, those who buy at the last minute. Most of these will still be legit, but they will also get the most attention because the TSA will not have had time to check them out ahead of time.

the simple fact of the matter is that if someone wanted to blow up an airliner and had no compunction about dying in the process, they could take a page from the drug smugglers and have the guy swallow a kilo of C4 wrapped in condoms with a simple mechanical detonator made from plastics, or even better, give the guy a nearly complete bowel resection and a colostomy and fill the guy's abdominal cavity with SEMTEX, and make sure he showers really well before going to the airport. none of it would show up on ANY of the current scanners.

the solution is not technology, it is profiling.

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12/05/2010 10:52 PM

So "someone" with a credit card. orders two bottles of 151 from the duty free shop in the airport.

Plane takes off and after duty free goods are handed out, prior to approach and landing, someone opens the bottles ( maybe they break them, maybe they don't) then lights the mess... ever seen bottles used in a bar fight? Broken bottles?

How does discreet scanning deal with this?

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12/09/2010 11:44 AM

GA, not only a Good Answer but the only answer. No one has been made safer by frisking or scanning my grandmother or my children... or anyone I know, for that matter.

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