Should Prison Cell Phones Be Jammed?

Should Prison Cell Phones Be Jammed?

WTF....are they ordering pizza? community land-line....(payphone) should be fine.

They're ordering hits on their enemies..............can't do that on land lines that are being recorded.

You commit a crime and go to prison you lose your rites that includes the use of cell phones. Why do these wine bags think they should still have all these rites after being a menus to society? Jam those phones and tell the prisoners to shut the hell up.

inhuman treatment.....

What are they doing with cell phones to began with? Are they allowed to have them? If not the prisons need to take better steps of searching visitors and better back ground checks on their guards. They don't need to be able to check on their hos, drug deals and hit men from within prison walls. They're there to be punished not live a life of luxury so punish them.

what a good place to run their operations.

Their criminals remember. Their good at breaking the rules just not getting caught. So what's one more rule to break. What you going to do put them in jail.

Once in Federal detainment cell. Met a guy there awaiting trial for two counts of murder. They were the guards on his chain gang. He said the initial charges on him were trumped up. That he got life for something he didn't do. He wanted to get him some. Those guards that day were in the way. He said they found him in bed with his wife. That what they going to do give him life. Already doing that and the state has no death penalty. He said at least now what he doing time for is justified. How much was the truth your guess is as good as mine. But his demeanor I did not place him as some street thug and he wasn't dumb he was well learned.

"They don't need to be able to check on their hos, drug deals and hit men from within prison walls."

No they don't just the guy that's taking care of it for them. So they are insured their cut will be there when they get out. That and to protect their power as their crews rotate in and out of the system. There's recruitment too what better place then to fill the ranks from.

But his demeanor I did not place him as some street thug and he wasn't dumb he was well learned.

Being well learned means nothing, as well a pleasing well liked demeanor (initially).....well, actually it's worst.....Look at Enron's upper management (as an example), and what they could do with these traits

Yes! Even the general public has to deal with the annoying interference of cell phones left on in inappropriate settings. To some the cell phone has become a crutch to their life. So much so that they don't know when, are not willing or forget to turn it off. The next generation will be even worst. Parents buy phones for their kids and they have become very dependant on them. Some of these kids when disciplined by removing their phone become very distraught. What will be their reactions when they are being told to turn them off as adults. So what they don't know about they can't get upset about.

I'm with mrclean on this. Are cell phones allowed? You are kidding me!

Well, if they are allowed, why would administration deny their use by jamming?

If they are not allowed, why the discussion? Take them away!

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Am I missing something?

They are not allowed. Everything the prisoners get their hands on, from cell phones to drugs..........comes from the guards. These favors are repaid to the guards with sex or money on the outside.

They found a cell phone on Manson a couple of months ago.

This is a big problem in California--Do you know that Charles Manson has a cell phone, and someone outside Prison pays for his fees? A Prison guard recently was caught , and admitted that he made over $150,000 by smuggling cell phones into prisons, at $1000 a pop, with cell plans being paid for by family or gang members. The Drug cartels are setting up hits outside of prisons , using these phones, and continuing to run their operations. People that I have spoken to, say that jamming devices are available with flexible range options, and that they should not be a problem to anyone outside of the prison--Maybe the fact that Prison guards in California can make up to $275000 a year with "overtime", and their pensions are under legal contract, and cannot be broken, may have something to do with the problem--Yah Think??? (Oh, and by the way--Who DO you think these Unions spend all of their money supporting, politically??-Run the numbers--They all just got elected again..)

If you don't want prisoners using cellular telephones, don't let them have 'phones. DUH. Jamming cannot be confined to a limited area, and will certainly interfere with the communications of honest citizens and perhaps even the emergency communication channels of the prison itself. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

They can keep jamming local. Furthermore Prisons are in remote areas so any interference you might experience driving by would be no more of an interference than if you had to drive through a tunnel until you drove out of range.

Furthermore, you shouldn't be driving and talking on a cell phone anyway.

The only problem with jamming cell phones in the prison is that it would deny the correctional officers the use of their own cell phones.

Many cell phones are smuggled into the prisons and used for illegal purposes. Yeah the criminals have criminal friends and families sometimes. So why not just use some simple technology to shield the prison cells and interior rooms. Or use local jammers rather than something that jams the surrounding area?

So yes, they should not be able to use cell phones in prison...I think they should not have laptops or any connection to the internet either but that's just me.

Cell Phone Jammer!

Seems like this same topic was up on CR4 just a month or so back, and the best solution was rather than jamming the signals (which could impact people who live near or travel by the prison), to set up a cell phone tower in the prison, which would be the default connection for anyone in the area, and then block only those calls to and from phones on the premises. The police routinely use cell phone records to track the movements of suspects. If the process doesn't currently work in real time that sounds like a pretty straight forward engineering problem.

If as has been suggested, the phones are provided by (some of) the guards then finding and confiscating the phones will be more difficult than it should be. The prisoners will just pass off the phone to a 'friendly' guard until the search is over. And just to be clear, I'm not necessarily critical of the guards - they may do it just for the money (in which case they should be on the other side of the bars), or they may be responding to threats against their families from the gangs.

"Seems like this same topic was up on CR4 just a month or so back, and the best solution was rather than..."

NO! I'm sorry, that is not the best solution to this.

If the phones are contraband, CONFISCATE THEM! Shake the joint down, and clean the prison out. If the guards are providing these, root out the dirty guards and show them what life in prison is really like. If guards are participating in hiding contraband during shakedown, same treatment. A dirty guard is a cancer within the system. If contraband is smuggled in by an attorney, more of the same.

Why oh why is this going on?

Do you seriously believe that they aren't trying to confiscate these phones? Or the drugs, knives, etc? I don't think this subject would have come up if these 'easy' fixes were working. I've never served time so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but from what I have seen prisons look pretty big, and there are certainly lots of places to hide little things. Maybe most of the cons are dumb as dirt, but some are plenty smart, plenty sociopathic, and they have plenty of time on their hands hatch their plots. So I have to disagree with you. The method you describe has been tried for as long as there have been prisons, and found wanting. It's time to try a technological fix, and the best choice would be one that disrupts 100% of the calls to and from prisoners, and 0% of the rest. Or if you would rather, we could just pay more in taxes to hire 'cleaners' to go through every cubic inch of the buildings every week...

In a country with 5% of the world's population that has 25% of the world's number of incarcerated, do you all really think that cell phones are the problem? WTF?

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Ever think that maybe the rule of law allows people and businesses to thrive here?

Why is it so many want to come here to live?

No, they should be supplied to the inmates with mandatory cameras. I surveyed a recently completed inmate cafeteria. There were serious design flaws along with the control circuits not been completed for the HVAC. This would lead one to wonder what their facilities personnel were doing when they were supposed to be inspecting the building before they signed it off. This happened to be a Federal job the primary difference between that and a private job is that the contractor collects the residual almost immediately once staff has approved the construction.

I think a little paranoia about being caught on video doing something besides their job would save taxpayer money.