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Rate Your Boss

Posted March 31, 2011 8:38 AM

Wait, don't do that here. She or he might not appreciate. But do comment on the best or baddest bosses you've experienced. Google evaluated more than 10,000 observations about bosses and ranked traits embodied by the best managers. (Check them out here.) Before venturing there, list things you think make great engineering supervisors. Do the most important traits change with the circumstances, or are they fairly static? Are technical skills and industry knowledge more vital certain times, trumping people skills?

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03/31/2011 3:14 PM

I once worked (for a short time) for a fellow that is a perfect discussion subject.

Integrity in a boss is a characteristic I admire, and I believe customers, neighbors, business associates and vendors alike admire it as well, and enjoy doing business with an above-board dealer. Then, there is this guy. In no particular order:

Cheated on his wife with the secretary; cheated (with the assistance of another credentialed door guy) on his credential exam; cheated another employee out of several thousands of dollars, convincing her to invest in the company (a similar investment offer was made to me, but the agreement was written so badly I didn't need to have anyone review it, I knew it was worthless); misrepresented to a large investor, and asked for (but did not receive) my assistance in doing so; misrepresented to a major supplier the amount of work contracted to date...

Boy, am I glad I don't work there. I regret accepting the job offer.

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03/31/2011 9:13 PM

I've had really really good and really really bad bosses over the years, with anecdotes too lengthy to tell. Right now the next person up is very sharp, but the upper management is not. I anticipate some battles royal before long.

I have worked in places where the politics were so smooth that most people would not get the point of Dilbert cartoons; and in other places where they were plastered on almost everybody's door.

If any of my higher-ups were to read CR4, I would soon be ferreted out (small town). But that risk is very low.

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03/31/2011 11:00 PM

India has a complex industrial scene, with multinational companies now dominating, but large/medium/small family-owned companies very much alive and kicking.

i worked for 3 MNCs and 2 family-owned companies. It is curious that i was fortunate to have outstanding bosses (and other senior executives) in the 2 family companies and one of the European companies.

The Indian bosses in the American company i was unfortunate to get were unmentionable. Curious that their work ethic was encouraged by their bosses in the US as 'initiative, good network skills, blah blah' ... all euphemism for 'dog eat dog' and 'politics'. Amazing and dispiriting. Fortunately i had earned some respect at the R&D at USA and was untouchable by these jerks

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04/01/2011 2:46 PM

I used to have a boss that no one liked. He is actually quite capable, but had absolutely no people skills. One particular day about 15 years ago, I felt the need for therapy... so I wrote a poem about him.

My Boss

Far be it for me, to burst my boss's bubble,

But he is a guy... that really means trouble.

He wants your clean-up... done on the double.

One day his career... could be a pile of rubble.

He has over-looked... one simple fact:

He'd be better off... with a bit of tact.

Now since he's no longer... union-backed,

His pea of a brain... still remains cracked.

Yes, my boss will... go out on a limb...

Whatever his boss... wants on a whim...

My boss will come through... with a grin.

You can rest assured... that's just him.

My boss can assign... too much work,

And come across like... a big fat jerk,

And then he has... another little quirk:

This bird dog... likes to hide and lurk.

One thing's for certain... in summation:

It really doesn't take... much speculation...

...Just like ^%&*@, ^(#% !%#^, and constipation,

My boss is a major source... of irritation!

(C) 2011 Ron Guilfoyle (RG2)

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04/02/2011 11:59 PM

As a career contract engineer, I've been fortunate enough to work for a score or more of bosses. They've ranged from absolute incompetence to absolute brilliance. A few of the more memorable:

1) We showed up at the job-site one morning, and waited and waited... finally we went to the home office and found that he'd cleared out the office and high tailed to somewhere. He had been forging signatures on our permits for weeks.

2) Whenever we worked overtime, he would buy the few of us that stayed a 12-pack of beer and KFC. We worked well into the night for him and always got the job done. He was highly respected. Built like a moose, but spoke softly.

3) I was hired to replace another engineer while he went on 3 week vacation. The boss had him teach me the ropes before he left. When he came back he was told he'd been replaced... by me. A couple years later, while my boss was getting sued by SEARS for trying to screw SEARS, he also got investigated by the SEC for fraud. Company got liquidated a couple weeks later.

4) Worked a job about a year before cut-back required down-sizing. My contract was for two years. The new boss that just came in gave me a severance package that almost equaled the entire additional year that I would miss. He didn't have to. Three years later, I got re-hired to a higher position for another year. The company recovered with the new boss. Moral was much higher than it was under the old inept boss.

5) I was assistant to the project manager. We were working on a multi-million dollar project. The project manager was from Czechoslovakia, and was brilliant. Very large man, very intelligent and soft spoken. Highly respected. Half way thru project, he got hired by our customer because of his excellent reputation and great results from his team. I became project manager and ex-boss was my customer. We made alot of money on that project.

6) Had an administrator-type manager. Thought he was an engineer because he got hired as engineering manager. Extreme micro-manager. Finally one day he wouldn't take my advise on the NEMA Class of electrical enclosure I specified. We argued to the point of him buying the lower Class and making a big deal about it to the whole company, that he would prove me wrong. In front of whole company he weighted and submerged his enclosure in water overnight. Next morning he wanted to open it in front of everyone and show that it would be dry inside. It wasn't. It flooded. He got let go three days later.

7) I was Structural Dept Manager. My boss didn't know anything about structures, and admitted it. In fact I was only one in company that understood structural design. Old Timers in Production didn't like the improvements and cost reductions I was proposing. They wanted to keep doing it "the way they've always done it". My boss kept them off my back. He took a lot of heat for me. After a year our methods were updated with considerable savings for company. Everyone got large bonuses.

I could go on, but the trend that I see over the years is that those bosses that were most successful and respected, were that way because of personal character, integrity, honesty and fairness, more than anything else.

Those that failed, did so because of the lack of those very same traits. Technical knowledge was not so much of an issue. Those that lacked it and succeeded, succeeded because they knew their technical limitations. Those that lacked it and failed, failed because they were too insecure to listen to their team.

Integrity gains more respect, and gains more effort from subordinates than any amount of technical knowledge ever could. IMHO Integrity is the key to being a successful boss.

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04/03/2011 6:01 AM

GA. You have put it very well.

Elsewhere, i have said that i never wanted the title 'Manager' since to me, it has negative connotations of "Manipulating" your people. i have always been honest with them, and it has paid off big time. And remember, they know your strengths and weaknesses best

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04/04/2011 8:51 AM

So far, out of the 3 companies Ive been to, my bosses were just like a big brother and a friend to me. Though sometimes there've been healthy arguments but most of the time, our office/department ended up like happy fun environment to be, though work is sometimes at max 7am to 10pm but we made it through quotas and expected accomplishments so far so good.

In my point of view:

A good engineering manager &/or supervisor is one in which is open to ideas, approachable, sincere and most importantly "understanding & appreciative" to its subordinate. A man with heart-on-hand and not easily & seldom gets a high temper.

Technical skills also is necessary but not a must, but should have at least know-how of the basics(1st Law & 2nd law of thermodynamics, works well also with business). It because when you are in the higher up, you don't stick anymore to wiring diagrams or how the induction motor works-something like that, but with business' inputs, outputs, assets and anticipation/mitigation of probable outcomes for decisions to be made and had been made.

The basic requirement to be a boss is one should have been once a subordinate. And the best guideline you could ever follow is asking a question in mind (when you are still a subordinate, relating to what you have experienced) "How should I be If I were a boss"

Well, so far so good, next week I will be turning over to a new boss, and at the same time being a miniature boss to a regional office. "I hope my new boss & my subordinates is ready for me so to speak".

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04/20/2011 1:12 PM

Sorry to say, but I cannot recall any good bosses. A few tolerable ones - they didn't provide anything, but they usually did leave me alone and let me work. The worst ones sabotaged my work, and one freely admitted doing so - during my exit (layoff) interview, in front of the HR guy! One clown jumped to take credit for my (and others') work, only to look foolish in front of higher management when he couldn't answer basic questions about it - then blamed us for his misfortune. Had several bosses who got their jobs via family or friend connections, and one actually bought his job. None of them were remotely qualified to be in an engineering department, let alone run it. Every one of these bad bosses eventually crashed and burned, although they managed to take several of us and sometimes the whole company down with them.

I can list some traits that I believe a good boss would have:

1. Doesn't have to be a technical guru, but should understand the technology well enough to gauge how projects are going and to recogize risks.

2. Listens to and respects the offerings of the people he hired or works with.

3. Positively motivates people to do their best, go the extra mile, and sharpen or broaden their skills.

4. Gives positive public credit where due, but keeps negative criticism private.

5. Shields his people from corporate BS.

6. Is honest and forthcoming about corporate changes that will affect his people.

7. Obtains resources through the company, including training and conference opportunities, for his people.

At this point, I'd settle for any two of the above.

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