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Catastrophic Curiosity?

Posted June 28, 2011 7:54 AM

There has long been debate regarding the high-energy antics of theoretical physicists at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) near Geneva, Switzerland. Some argue that scientists might inadvertently create some heretofore unknown particle that might create a black hole that could gobble up all matter or spawn a catastrophic antimatter reaction. Perhaps this is how the last Big Bang started, with a curious advanced civilization trying to discover its origin.

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Re: Catastrophic Curiosity?

06/28/2011 7:56 AM

If it happens, Mankind will be the last to know about it.

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06/28/2011 12:13 PM

Certainly, according to Paul Simon.

(Lyrics to "Something So Right")

You've got the cool water
When the fever runs high
You've got the look of lovelight
in your eyes
And I was in crazy motion
Til you calmed me down
It took a little time
But you calmed me down

When something goes wrong
I'm the first to admit it
I'm the first to admit it
But the last one to know
when something goes right
Well it's likely to lose me
It's apt to confuse me
It's such an unusual sight
I can't get used to something so right
Something so right

They've got a wall in China
It's a thousand miles long
To keep out the foreigners
They made it strong
I've got a wall around me
You can't even see
It took a little time
To get to me

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I love you
It's not their style
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Some people never say those words
I love you
But like a child they're longing
to be told

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06/29/2011 7:16 AM

Rock on, Tommy.

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06/28/2011 8:20 AM

There has long been debate regarding the high-energy antics of theoretical physicists at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) near Geneva, Switzerland. Some argue that scientists might inadvertently create some heretofore unknown particle that might create a black hole that could gobble up all matter or spawn a catastrophic antimatter reaction. Perhaps this is how the last Big Bang started, with a curious advanced civilization trying to discover its origin.

'There has long been debate...' No, there hasn't. Two crackpots filing a frivolous lawsuit does not constitute a 'long debate'.

'Some argue...' 'Some' being two, as in two crackpots. I could just as easily argue that riding a 10-speed bicycle down a long hill might 'inadvertently create some heretofore unknown particle that might create a black hole that could gobble up all matter or spawn a catastrophic antimatter reaction' and my argument would be just as valid.

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06/29/2011 12:21 AM

GA...

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06/29/2011 9:51 PM

Yes, GA!

If it was that easy to annihilate a solar system, there would be much less stars around us. There are billions of very energetic incidents happening daily in the universe and it is still there.

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06/28/2011 1:29 PM

Someone is watching too much Lexx.

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06/29/2011 12:24 AM

isn't the primary purpose of the LHC to "create some heretofore unknown particle"?

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06/29/2011 5:50 AM

From what I understand, cosmic ray particles from outer space hit the earths atmosphere every day that have more energy than that generated in the LHC, and we're still here.

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06/29/2011 6:51 AM

We just think we are here.

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06/29/2011 7:17 AM

That would be an illusion brought on by lack of alcohol.

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06/29/2011 11:26 AM

Which brings up my tag line...

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06/29/2011 11:34 AM

In the words of Robin Williams (though perhaps not his, originally):

Reality...What a Concept!

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06/29/2011 1:05 PM

This post is just noise designed to shock. Where does the vibration fit in?

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06/30/2011 2:00 AM

In the same place as transposed Hadron might?

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06/30/2011 7:59 AM

nordaH. Hmmmmmm.......

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06/30/2011 10:03 AM

Well the rd bit is right

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07/01/2011 11:25 AM

There is an ancient story in India runs like this...

Three learned students were moving in forest. They saw dry bones of a dead tiger. Two of them got an idea to experiment the knowledge which they had received from their Guru (Spiritual Master) to re-install life on dead. Third student did not agree with that idea, foreseeing that what will happen ones tiger regains life. But as other two were head strong on experimenting, he climbed over a big tree. After experiment, dead tiger regained life and killed those two students.

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07/05/2011 8:17 AM

So the moral of this story is, "If you're going to resurrect a tiger, climb over a tree first"?

Confusion reigns here.

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07/05/2011 11:40 AM

No, the morale of the story is to weigh the consequences of the outcome of new experiment before trying for the first time. it is in reply to

"Some argue that scientists might inadvertently create some heretofore unknown particle that might create a black hole that could gobble up all matter or spawn a catastrophic antimatter reaction. Perhaps this is how the last Big Bang started, with a curious advanced civilization trying to discover its origin."

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07/06/2011 6:44 AM

As you might actually be worried by these two nutters - ask yourself what is the maximum amount of 'anti-matter' one could make by 'inverting' a gram of matter?

Now; how many grams of (positive) matter would be required to 'balance' the anti-matter?

Oddly the logic says 'unity' (but probably less)

So for the world to suddenly get 'inverted' - you need another worlds worth to stick in the collider.

It's not that big.

So; if you did manage to make some 'dire outcome' at particle level mass, how much of the billion ton collider might be 'consumed' to neutralise it?

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