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Implications of Facial Recognition

Posted October 18, 2011 7:00 AM

Researchers have combined facial recognition software with Internet data mining techniques to predict certain information (such as name, friends — sometimes even social security number) about someone working from just a picture of that person's face. You can't get "lost in a crowd" anymore. What's more, the lead researcher says that, "If we are able to do it, anyone is able to do it." How do you take reports like this? Is this the end of privacy? Is it too late to get the genie back into the bottle? On the other hand, the researchers see more cost-effective, more widely-available facial recognition technology as "democratizing" surveillance. If everyone has the capability, is it less threatening?

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10/18/2011 10:40 AM

I don't mind it being I am not a ware of anything I have to hide.

In fact feel free to follow me around! It will probably about as entertaining most days as watching paint dry.

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10/18/2011 11:40 PM

Coming soon..........to a police state near you!

"I don't mind it being I am not a ware of anything I have to hide.":

Thats not the point is it? Why should certain people need/want the power to know who and where you are and what you doing? Freedom as we know it is slowly being eroded away, step by painful step, and people dont even realise it. If you have a phone with internet connectivity, then they probably already know where you are. And if you dont, and have an old dodgy phone, and they are keen, then they can probably just triangulate your position. (The telecommunication companies cant however find your phone when you happen to have lost it. How does that work? "oh really? you have lost your phone, well we are sorry sir there is nothing we can do, you will have to come into our store and our friendly staff can assist you in getting another one though")

Im guessing you'll be one of the first in line to get an RFID implanted in your arm.

All in the interest of things like "efficiency" and "national security" blah blah blah.

One day when you have all your personal info, identification and bank details stuck in your arm and they delete you from the system for not paying a traffic infringement fine, these words will ring loudly in your head........"I told you so".

And by then, it will be to late.

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10/19/2011 2:04 AM

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Get used to it! We live in a different world than the one I knew in the 50's - far more dangerous and the bad guys are far more capable.

No one wants another Twin Towers incident but claritysable only wants to complain about the government not stopping an incident after the fact it seems.

Where I live I have a national ID card and it bothers me not at all. Where you here live has to be registered and if you move you must make the change at the government office - big deal.

If I were a drug dealer or hard terrorist intentions I wouldn't want it - otherwise it is no problem.

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10/18/2011 11:26 PM

My younger son who is doing his final year engineering was working on one such software development. I shall forward this to him. Give private message and I will give you his mail ID. He is presently student of Institute of Aeronautical Engineering, Dindigal, Hyderabad.

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10/19/2011 9:40 AM

I'm quite sure the amount of crimes, in and out of the Goverment has not increased in the past 100 years. But population, ability to broadcast and reports of such crimes bring them most notably to our attention often. And have us all on alert to obtain our 15 min. of fame and to remain crime free.To be traced by facial recognition is a pry on our privacy but we are in the publics eye and must act accordingly. Cameras and sensor has stopped and prevented many a sober young and old crook from practicing his intent to make an easy buck. It also makes a few of us more conserned of what we are placing before the public and keeping the bedroom tatics in the bedroom and off the streets of the world. And we tend to act more respectable when we are out. Some of us.

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10/19/2011 11:32 AM

This loss of privacy thing seems to be a recurring theme on CR4. Is it good or bad? It can be both same as most "new" things. I too can say follow me because I have nothing to hide, however if what is deemed a crime were to suddenly change that might not be so true and there in lies the danger.

I would like to make one point though. Has anything really changed that much? I recently moved to a small village of less than 1,000 people. Everyone on main street seems to know everyone's name. I am already greeted by almost everyone I pass (Been in town a whole two weeks). I'm sure soon they will know my name and I will know theirs. I bet everyone has a pretty good idea what people do for a living, where they live where they bank etc. So my question is this are we really going into new territory or returning to the days of yore when everyone knew everyone else in town and knew most of their "business". Cities are now huge and have millions of people in them. It takes massive technology to "know" that many people. So are we moving into a brave new world, or are we returning to the good old days?

Remember Cheers? Where everyone knows your name? Why is that considered a good thing but if the police or government know your name its a bad thing?

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10/19/2011 6:22 PM

"We live in a different world than the one I knew in the 50's - far more dangerous and the bad guys are far more capable."

Yeh its diffrerent, but I dont think the world is anymore dangerous. Peoples perception of the world has changed, thats all, due to reasons jtd405 raised "But population, ability to broadcast and reports of such crimes bring them most notably to our attention often." Peoples fears have escalated, due mainly to media and government sensationalism. Everyone is running scared, and looking over their shoulder, and eying off other citizens of the world while they are on the trains, or in the planes. Its all fear, created and propogated for a reason.......control.

"No one wants another Twin Towers incident but claritysable only wants to complain about the government not stopping an incident after the fact it seems." I did not and do not want to complain about the government stopping an incident after the fact. I will however, complain about the ramifications and follow-on effects such incidents have on society in general. Things like the patriot act, and the government being able to do whatever the hell they like, without any evidence. (not that it directly effects me in Austraila) But its the principle. And as for this twin towers incident; even if there was a group of so-called terrorists that hijacked aircraft with box cutters (some of which have subsequently been found to still be alive), that could have been stopped, ground control was made aware there were hi-jacked planes, so its not like the government didnt know what was going on, and the damage could have been minimised. But then America wouldnt have had a reason to "free" Iraq, and get involved in Afghanistan, and ALOT of people wouldnt have made ALOT of money.

And apothicus, you raise some good points, but i think the good old days you speak of is what's called a "community". Yes you are going to get that in a small town, thats the way it is. Knowing your neighnours and their business and saying hi is completely different to a nameless faceless entity (the government) that has the capability to wage wars and manipulate economies knowing your business and your every move. Information is but a tool, and the more they have, the more powerful they become.

As William Pitt said "Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it"

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10/20/2011 12:35 AM

Balls!

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10/20/2011 12:48 AM

Rum balls? Foot balls? Soccer balls? What balls? Whether you choose to believe it or not is your right (for the time being), but its happening. Here is a good example:

http://shebshi.wordpress.com/2011/09/12/some-real-shock-and-awe-racially-profiled-and-cuffed-in-detroit/

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10/20/2011 2:04 AM

Balls, balls - I can write such things as well and get the outpouring of sympathy - is it real? I don't know.

What really happened? I don't know.

The sky is falling - the sky is falling!

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