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What Is It? for 2/26/12

Posted February 26, 2012 12:00 AM
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02/26/2012 1:33 AM

Bridge remnant...

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02/26/2012 7:43 AM

The bothy .

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02/26/2012 3:16 PM

Hitler's bunker.

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02/27/2012 3:11 AM

Hello Tornado always I enjoy your excellent answers, but this time you are not right. The former visible parts where blasted away by the russian military and the underground part is made fully inaccessible since the end of the 1970ties. The East German "Stasi" has taken measurements and blocked the access. Only a co memorative Plate plate indicates the location.

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02/27/2012 7:03 AM

I was only having fun with a wild guess!

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Re: What Is It? for 2/26/12

02/26/2012 3:55 PM

Just a guess, but is it a well disguised "modern" item to fit the local environment?

Something like the exhaust stack from an underground highway tunnel, or even the council shed for storage of tools and equipment used to maintain the parkland.

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Re: What Is It? for 2/26/12

02/27/2012 3:44 AM

It's where the best universities in the US keep their ivy covered professors (in ivy covered halls...)

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02/27/2012 7:29 AM

It appears to be one of the few surviving locks along the old Erie canal,

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02/27/2012 7:46 AM

Looks like a perfect spot for a geocache.

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Re: What Is It? for 2/26/12

02/27/2012 8:00 AM

Yes, I think it is bunker or a silo. Maybe an unfinished or damaged tank loader.

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03/01/2012 1:33 PM

They fixed any of them up?

This is an old lock on the C&O canal in park in Western Maryland.

Several miles of the C&O still in use as tourist attraction in Georgetown.

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02/27/2012 8:14 AM

This looks very familiar!

I'd say that it's part of an original Erie Canal lock that parallels the Mohawk River and NYS Thruway in upstate NY......possibly near the outfall of the Schoharie Creek at the Mohawk River????

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02/27/2012 8:17 AM

Or near the Schenectady NY General Electric Plant in the Town of Rotterdam NY?????

Or possibly the locks located mid-way between Utica and Syracuse right beside the east-bound lanes of the NYS Thruway???

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02/27/2012 8:46 AM

I agree with those above who suggest it it s lock (im sure they are delighted :-) ) .. it looks the tree line in the background in stepped back so that is probably where the road is that would have been used for horse drawn barges back in the day.

Also the recess in the wall looks like where the gates would have closed into to provide the full width of the structure for barges..

Maybe it is just the photo but does the wingwall look strange to anyway else at the angle it is at? seem to be at nearly a right angle to the wall of the lock.. yo would imagine the wingwalls would run in a V shape to the lock..

anyone with greater knowledge that can provide reason??

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02/27/2012 9:32 AM

Good observations Buttons.

In the first pic at the start of the thread, it's sort of an optical illusion, but the wing walls are not quite at 90 degrees to the lock axis. There is some "flare" angle to them, probably between 70 and 80 degrees from what I remember of them.

BTW, I used to live quite close to the old locks located near the Schoharie Creek outfall at the Mohawk.....it's roughly some 7 or 8 miles upstream of the City of Amsterdam NY. I used to ride my 10-speed bike along the bike trails with my kids and we'd stop at the locks and eat our picnic lunch within the small park there.

There are several original locks still intact along the old Eire Canal, and everyone of them is distinct and different, depending on the surrounding terrain and the old canal alignments.

Unfortunately, the State of New York has dragged it's feet preserving these historic treasures. Most structures reside along bike trails that were constructed over the past 25 years or so, or within state owned lands, the NYS Thruway Authority Right-of-Ways, the NYS Canal Authority ROWs, and the railroad ROWs. A lot of them have become overgrown with vegetation (as you can see from the pics). Most of the original canal has been filled in because of the impounded pool water becomes stagnant and a mossie breeding ground. Another thing that really ticks me off is that the graffiti artists have free play messing up the beautiful stone work with their spray cans and the state is very slow to remove let alone patrol the sites at night.

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02/27/2012 9:52 AM

Thanks captain Moosie.. i figured they couldnt be at 90 degrees.. it would not make sense to do so and for the most part these old structures were well planned and thought through.

Its a long way from where i am so i have never seen them but they do look impressive and should be preserved.. part of history and engineering evolution.. a time gone by

Its not the current generations loss but future generations to come..

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02/27/2012 10:17 AM

You're very welcome Buttons!

I do agree with you 100% that they should be preserved for future generations. I do not know if they have become recognized by the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) as a "Historic Civil Engineering Structure", or something like that. I am curious if there is any sort of historical recognition by the Feds, the State of NY, and the ASCE. I suppose I'll have to do some digging (LOL) online to see if there is any sort of recognition.

Does anybody have a clue if any of the above mentioned entities have bestowed historical significance to the remaining Erie Canal structures? Please pipe up if you know something about this, okay?

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02/27/2012 10:51 AM

Zeppelin loading terminal.

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02/27/2012 11:22 AM

After doing a little bit of online research, the photograph looks like it may be a hot of the southern end of Erie Canal Lock #60 located near Macedon NY, which is about mid-way between Rochester and Buffalo.

Check out the center photograph at the bottom of the Macedon section:

http://www.eriecanal.org/MacedonPalmyra.html#Lock60

You be the judge....

Also, it looks like the Erie Canalway National Heritage Corridor is working with the NYS Canal Corporation, State Historic Preservation Office, and Historic American Engineering Record (HAER) to nominate the NYS Barge Canal System to the National Register of Historic Places, with the application slated for a June 2012 submission date.

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02/28/2012 3:51 PM

You mean this one:

Enlarged Erie Canal Lock No. 60 -- South (single length) chamber; Middle: looking west from within the canal prism

It does look very similar.

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02/28/2012 4:30 PM

Yes USB, that's the one I had mentioned. No other photographs of existing and surviving Erie Canal lock works are even remotely close to the one that the OP has posted.

Granted that the one that you have posted show the area "cleaned up" somewhat of brush and trees, but I'm 95% sure it's the correct site; the pic appears to be from a different angle, so that makes it difficult + there apparently is a timeline difference too.

Another thing, look at the power poles in the background.....the OP's pic shows a single power pole whereas the pic that you posted shows a double-pole arrangement with a cross bar. But they are located in the approximate same location from the looks of things. Guessing that the power lines were upgraded sometime recently. So, I'm also guessing that the OP's pic is an older one before the NYS Canal Corp. started cleaning up the old Erie Canal sites. I surmise that they did this during the time period where they started building the new bike trails along the canal in the last 20-25 years. Your pic shows how most of the Erie Canal sites look now days....cleaned up for recreational use, ie, tourism draw. I must say that most, but not all, are cleaned up to a good extent, as some sites have some issues that prevent easy access to them, mainly due to due to standing/stagnant water issues or the presence of the Mohawk River/NYS Barge Canal waters.

Well, that's my take on things! Gotta love this area (throughout upstate NY) with all of it's Americana history...glad that I grew up here and still live here! Civil Engineering delights for the eyeballs! hehehehehe

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02/27/2012 12:41 PM

Ballard for the telephone pole real bad drivers around there.

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02/27/2012 1:10 PM

Its another futile attempt by man to conquer nature. In time it will be reintegrated or decompose back into the environment to be rediscovered for archeologists to contemplate its true meaning as possibly a place of sacrifice.

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02/28/2012 4:13 AM

Aha! Someone else who doubts that all previous human civilizations spent their time worshipping and sacrificing. Thank Juno!

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02/28/2012 8:20 AM

While its known that some worshiping and sacrificing took place within some cultures at some times, it always struck me as funny - and lacking in imagination by the anthropologists - that this seems to be their only answer to any odd artifact they uncover.

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02/28/2012 8:55 AM

The Admiralty Blockhouse looks an ideal place for politicians and bankers... Obsidien knives would sell like hot cakes

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02/28/2012 9:54 AM

I have some right here sir. Knives, halberd blades, arrow tips....all with a beautiful finish...

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02/27/2012 7:53 PM

It looks like the backstop in Del's back yard.

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02/28/2012 11:43 AM

It's a utility pole! (overhead electric service).

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02/29/2012 7:21 AM

It's Lock 9 of the Erie Canal. You can see more pictures here: http://www.tug44.org/canal.history/erie-lock-9/

The second photo shows an expanded view of this double lock. (The part on the left was pictured in this blog entry.)

lonster, SolarEagle, CaptMoosie, and Buttons all knew what it was but not which one. PMoon was also right - there is a telephone pole in the picture.

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02/29/2012 9:06 AM

Opppps I missed looking very closely at Lock 9 in my search! LOL

Thanks Savvy for sharing a very fun thread!

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