Engineering News Blog

Engineering News

Latest news of interest to engineers. Sourced from GlobalSpec's Engineering News

Previous in Blog: Boeing's Engine Fan Upgrade Maximizes Efficiency   Next in Blog: Civil Engineers Find Savings Where the Rubber Meets the Road: Stiffer Roads Reduce Fuel Consumption
Close
Close
Close
4 comments
Rate Comments: Nested

Report Reveals Fake Chips in U.S. Military Hardware

Posted May 23, 2012 8:27 AM

From EE Times:

More than a million suspect counterfeit electronic components have been used in 1,800 separate cases of bogus parts affecting U.S. military hardware, according to a report produced by the Senate Armed Services Committee. View the full article HERE.

Read the whole article

Reply

Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.
Guru
Hobbies - DIY Welding - Don't Know What Made The Old Title Attractive... Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - 60 Year Member

Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Yellowstone Valley, in Big Sky Country
Posts: 7426
Good Answers: 295
#1

Re: Report Reveals Fake Chips in U.S. Military Hardware

05/23/2012 9:25 AM

Yikes! All of the documentation required by the US gov't, and these counterfeit parts still make it in?

What is the recourse? In my business, if I get caught providing noncompliant material on a government job I have to do it again, or they will simply not pay me. Are these bogus parts discovered too late, the checks are cashed and the providers have gone bust?

To clarify, I haven't tried to provide noncompliant materials... I have done so in error a few times, but they 'correct' me, and I have learned another US procurement idiom.

__________________
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
Reply
Guru
Hobbies - CNC - New Member Hobbies - DIY Welding - New Member Engineering Fields - Electromechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 23647
Good Answers: 420
#2
In reply to #1

Re: Report Reveals Fake Chips in U.S. Military Hardware

05/23/2012 9:56 AM

I would have to say, these parts were more than likely discovered after failure.

In my business, if I get caught providing noncompliant material on a government job I have to do it again, or they will simply not pay me.

But by not paying you wouldn't create an international incident where China would or the domestic contractor that used it ...... says p911 sarcastically.

__________________
“ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
Reply
Anonymous Poster #1
#4
In reply to #1

Re: Report Reveals Fake Chips in U.S. Military Hardware

05/23/2012 1:09 PM

Documents mean nothing to these guys. I asked for documentation and electrical agency certification paperwork from a potential supplier there and they at least had the honesty to respond "Sure! So how much fake paperwork and what fake markings do you want? We do this for all our US customers!".

Recently we asked another supplier to slightly change a circuit to improve quality. One of our engineers hand-sketched the requested changes onto one of their existing schematics and sent it to them asking they update their schematic to reflect the new design. What did they do? That's right...they photocopied the badly hand-scribbled drawing we sent them and sent it right back to us. As if they'd somehow come up with it...?

Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Optical Engineering - Member Engineering Fields - Engineering Physics - Member Engineering Fields - Systems Engineering - Member

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Trantor
Posts: 5363
Good Answers: 647
#3

Re: Report Reveals Fake Chips in U.S. Military Hardware

05/23/2012 11:04 AM

I was talking about this with a buddy of mine recently who is a QA engineer for a company that supplies military components and subassemblies. He said most of the parts are run-of-the-mill resistors, capacitors and so forth. A smaller portion are parts that include memory or processing capability which might have more serious consequences.

The problem, in his opinion, is that companies are simply not doing their QA due diligence when they buy parts. They are buying parts from distributors and merely accepting on faith the distributors' claim that the parts are compliant and not gray-market counterfeits from China; they're not tracking the parts back to the manufacturer.

__________________
Whiskey, women -- and astrophysics. Because sometimes a problem can't be solved with just whiskey and women.
Reply
Reply to Blog Entry 4 comments
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

Anonymous Poster (1); Doorman (1); phoenix911 (1); Usbport (1)

Previous in Blog: Boeing's Engine Fan Upgrade Maximizes Efficiency   Next in Blog: Civil Engineers Find Savings Where the Rubber Meets the Road: Stiffer Roads Reduce Fuel Consumption

Advertisement