Hiring Practices Narrow Employment Choices

"Why, when alleged staff shortages prevent engineering departments from reaching their full potential,"

Because people of an engineering mindset are most often rational financially responsible people which unfortunately negatively affects their credit ratings (because banks don't make money off of financially responsible levelheaded people) which apparently the typical HR person uses as a gauge to determine whether or not they will make a good reliable worker.

That and everyone knows that any rational responsible person is going to question the irresponsible idiotic actions of their superiors at every turn and who wants that?

Ya gotta' play the game....throw the bank a little money, carry a little dept, make payments on time.....this shows stability and reliability and fair play...you tip your bartender don't you, why not the people handling your money...?

I never tip.

Paying the employees is the bar's/restaurant's responsibility, that's why they have a margin isn't it?

Ask any Ozzy if they tip.

You wouldn't get along well here in the US....or many other places....

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g191-s606/United-States:Tipping.And.Etiquette.html

http://www.emilypost.com/out-and-about/tipping/89-general-tipping-guidelines

http://www.oprah.com/money/Guide-to-Tipping

http://www.itipping.com/

We're heading seriously OT here..

I have experienced the tipping custom in the US. Didn't much like it.

I recall going to a "classy" French restaurant somewhere in the US and when the bill came I paid the exact amount and no tip. The service sucked and the owner of the restaurant was my waiter. He challenged my non payment of a tip and I told him the service sucked and anyway why would I pay the owner a tip? Cheek. He asked where I was from and once told shut up and we went our way.

I don't see why tipping is obligatory in the food trade. You have some serious minimum wage issues there.

BTW does one have to tip at a fast food outlet? eg KFC, McDongas, Bugga King....

Typically,,at least to North American tipping ways(in my experience), if the service is lousy, leave a token tip (usually the smallest coin on your person) only. That way, they will know you didn't just "forget" to leave a tip and the service wasn't worth a tip.

I don't tip.

No one gives me extra pay for doing my job right so why should I give someone else extra money for doing theirs right especially if all their work involved was writing something down on a scribble pad and carrying or pushing my food on a cart a few tens of feet.

Echo.

Not only do we not get tipped for doing our jobs right we often then have to deal with hagglers.

TC - Please read my reply #13 above.

No one else is paying that server for doing the job at all!

HR trends get you dumped before you ever have the opportunity to speak with someone who sees your value to a team. yes it sucks but thats the game these days. the boss may have loved you but HR excludes you before you even shake the bosses hand

The linked article talks about employment in England. All the news I've seen in the US about STEM employment is that it's pretty high, something like 4% unemployment versus 7-8% for all occupations.

In computers, salaries have nearly doubled over the last ten years. That says "shortage" to me.

I've read other UK based articles that complained that STEM trained employees were leaving for other countries for better pay and conditions. Sounds like a UK problem to me.

What I see here, when I look at job postings, is HR lists everything they can think of causing some qualified candidates to not even apply and providing lots of arbitrary reasons for rejections.

I've read other UK based articles that complained that STEM trained employees were leaving for other countries for better pay and conditions. Sounds like a UK problem to me.

The UK is much more socialized than we are. When trying to level the playing field you can't raise everyone up so you need to tax the hell out of the successful ones. We can see the results, a poor economy.

Well, there's this:

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/03/the-myth-of-the-science-and-engineering-shortage/284359/

I don't find it completely persuasive, but of course there are always going to be highly-skilled fields with low demand and high unemployment (telephone technicians, perhaps?).

The other thread about credit and medical checks might explain a lot on this thread.

For every idiot that says good help is hard to find, three sensible persons can say that good wages and management attitudes are even harder to find.

I see this is IT all the time. The new Management trend has been to hire Einsteins for minimum wage for their game plan to work. This is job security. If HR can't give you what you need it is their fault not management's. I exaggerate but I have some friend who had many engineering jobs open for 2 years. The theory was to only hire persons who could 'hit the ground running'. They were either offering too little or asking for too much. My friend left that job. I told him that was the right move a company like that can't say in business.. I remember seeing about 150 job openings for apps developers with 5 years experience. No one wanted one with 4 years experience. This was when iphones had been out only 3 years. Everyone wanted one of the pioneers but were not will to pay much more than a senior C++ programmer.

This game plan leaves many job openings permanently unfilled.