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Who Fixes Your Valves?

Posted June 22, 2008 8:23 AM

Buying refurbished valves can be risky because you never know what you are buying. It may pay you to repair the valves you have. But who do you trust? One vendor says to use only OEM-certified technicians and OEM parts for your repairs. On the other hand, experienced valve repair shops are available nationwide. Some even will come to your plant and fix your valves on-site. How do you determine who is capable of repairing your valves?

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06/23/2008 3:49 AM

What is the application? What kind of valves? Mounted in a pressure head? in the block? Why are the valves being repaired?

Did a shaft break bending the valves? Are the valves just leaking from build up?

Do the valves need adjusting from long term use? Did a valve spring break or is it leaking causing blow back?

WHEN IN DOUBT GET HAVE NEW VALVES, SPRINGS and lock caps installed. Cut new seats grid or cut for proper length.

Be careful what you tell a mechanic to do. He will allow you to be the boss and do what he is told or he can check for problems the might have caused the valve problem.

Mechanic have learned over the years to let the people paying the bills to make decisions. So be careful what you decide. Tell the mechanic you think you need a valve job or the shop boss. Then ask if there is anything else that should be checked. Don't act like you know it all let them do their work.

Generally valves are the easy part of repair job so the tech who does it will be checked by someone. Just ask them what they check for like spring tension, spring height, valve length, valve seat width, and material the valve is made of.

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06/23/2008 11:11 PM

Silly me, I was thinking of Vacuum Valves, and was wondering how they were being refurbished... and trying to imagine a workman coming here and fixing them...

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06/24/2008 3:36 AM

We don't use to buy refurbished valves. Repairing is a different thing, valves can leak though the packing or seat (resilient ones more easily) or even through the bonnet to body gasket. They need to be maintained (greased, etc).

The valve world is too wide for a simple answer. For complex ones we use to ask the valve manufacturer when possible. If this is not possible (some manufacturers disappear) for that valves we use only very qualified companies.

For common globe, gate, butterfly, check, etc valves there are more suppliers that can give you a good service.

Even in some cases, we don't repair the valve, we change the complete valve for economical reasons, as for example in small valves which are seat leaking and have a seal weld between body and bonnet. It's cheaper (and quicker) to replace the complete valve than to cur the lip seal, repair the seat, reweld the lip seal....

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07/01/2008 10:43 PM

Please confirm the material of every part first, is confirming the situation that each part is being damaged, it is a tedious job that one is repaired in the valve, is ok.

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07/28/2008 12:30 PM

we have the problem regarding reparing of the ball valve, specially valve seat. to make the valve seat from teflon its very costly in kenya. can u please give another option material. can u please explain me what affects when we close the valve suddenly why we suppose to close it gradually. i want to explain my operators technically.

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07/28/2008 2:09 PM

Plastic or metal ball valves?

What size?

What materials [fluid ] are in the pipe.

what temprature?

Teflon is used because it is slippery, impervious to many chemicals & can take eleveted tempratures.

Other plastics may work depending on the conditions

Quickly closing any valve can cause damage from increased pressure.

The larger the pipe the the greater the possibility of damage.

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07/28/2008 3:59 PM

metal ball valve

4 inch

material is soap slurry

temperature is 80-100 degree celcious

please explain me how the larger the pipe more damages

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07/29/2008 1:23 AM

I'll give it a shot.

The larger the pipe the more [force] energy is contained in the flow.

doubling the size of the pipe multiplies the volume times 4.

When you shut a valve quickly the energy in the flow bounces back, momentarily raising the pressure. The energy has to go some where!

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07/29/2008 7:19 AM

i have one steam header which has 17 bar pressure and four lines are connected to it one of the line having pn 16 valve

what is this pn

if it means 16 bar what capacity of steam valve i have to put there

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07/29/2008 2:30 PM

Here's some info:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/temperature-pressure-ratings-valves-d_1182.html The chart shows bar having a 1:1 relationship to PN#

To follow up on the valve seats.

Because of the temperature you probably have to use teflon for the valve seats

http://www.boedeker.com/mtable.htm

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08/23/2008 3:53 PM

I recommend using OEM parts. That way you know that the parts a compatible in your service. In other words not boot leg parts. However there are many qualified technicians that can do the repairs. But ask allot of questions.

1. Does the tech have the safety training, license, H2S training, etc. in your particular environment.

2. Is the tech familiar with your valves, that need repairs.

3. How much experience does he/she have. How long have they been on the job.

4. As it might be vary dangerous, Can they pass a drug test.

I'm sure you can come up with additional questions.

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08/24/2008 10:00 AM

what is OEM parts where i can get informaton

what is H2S TRAINNING

please inform me

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08/26/2008 7:07 AM

"OEM" means Original Equipment Manufacturer whatever it was, so information can be found just from the "part" manufacturer.

H2S training? Maybe Health & Safety.

Of course it preferable to use "OEM" parts and replaced or refurbished by "OEM" but I know this is not always possible. We've found in some circumstances that the OEM company has disappeared. In such cases depending on the information we had about the valve, sometimes we have refurbished it (when material grade specification and dimensions are known) and sometimes we've changed the complete valve)

Valves are not different from any other equipment (a pump or a TV set) and require always be repaired/maintained by qualified people and this include of course but is not limited to OEM.

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08/29/2008 12:06 AM

TV valves are a little harder to fix.

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08/29/2008 1:55 AM

Sure! Fortunately our electronic colleagues have developed some newer components (but they are even harder to fix... mmmm... how can i fix a diode? and a chip?)

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