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The Science Behind Some Popular Phrases

Posted December 08, 2008 8:58 AM

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Once in a Blue Moon: A neat description of "not very often," it refers to the second full moon within a month - a rare thing indeed. Full moons happen about every 29.5 days, and since a typical month runs between 30 to 31 days, the likelihood of two in a month is slim. But over the course of a century there'll be 41 months with two full moons, so once in a blue moon really means - if you want to get literal - once every 2.4 years.

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12/08/2008 11:32 AM

Looking into the cat's and dogs expression, it traces from the given link to ;

Drowned puppies, stinking sprats, all drenched in mud,
Dead cats and turnips-tops come tumbling down the flood

Swift (quote above) seems to be alluding to the torrents of garbage flooding down the street, rather than rain. I s'pose it could be the source. Shame about those turnips. In 1710 there were probably far worse things flowing down the street.

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12/08/2008 12:48 PM

Just don't start me on the archery expresions.

Rule of thumb.
Shot your bolt.
Another string to your bow.
Long shot.
Underhand...
Fast and loose...

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12/08/2008 2:48 PM

How about "Flip the Bird"?

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Jack & Jill: Vinegar is fast remedy for damaged fingers etc.

12/09/2008 12:24 AM

Jack and Jill - Old Nursery Rhyme

Jack and Jill went up the hill

To fetch a pail of water

Jack fell down and broke his crown

And Jill came tumbling after.

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Up he got

And home he trot

As fast as he could caper

Went to bed and wrapped his head

With vinegar and brown paper.

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For those who ever wondered what vinegar and brown paper have to do with a severe blow to the head (or anywhere else), try this method of reducing bruising.

If you ever hit the wrong nail (Finger or thumb nail) when using a hammer, fill a cup with vinegar, malt or cider - it does not matter.

Place the injured digit into the vinegar, keep it there for several minutes.

There will be no swelling, pain quickly goes, and in 10 minutes or so, you will be able to use that damaged digit once again, without any pain.

Bruising is minimised.

So...When vinegar is placed on a damaged part of the body, and retained there for several minutes, as in the case of Jack's head, the fastest method of recovery is to get it immersed in vinegar as soon as possible.

Remedy was given to me by old Scots cable jointer, some 50+ years ago, it has never failed me, or others who use the remedy.

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12/09/2008 2:19 PM

Interesting regarding remedies. I once learned of a remedy for extremely infected sore throats (this was back in the mid-1960s). I was in hospital for 9 days in excruciating pain unable to eat. I later found the remedy used after all the various available anesthetics proved worthless for treating the pain. It was considered an old wives tale remedy and I subsequently located it in a local telephone book. It used a crushed Aspirin and a teaspoon of baking soda mixed in 1/2 shot-glass of water.

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12/09/2008 3:00 AM

The following bit of rhyme sounds more plausible ;

The 'blue moon' expression itself is old and dates back to mediaeval England. For example, a work by William Barlow, the Bishop of Chichester, the Treatyse of the Buryall of the Masse, 1528, which is more commonly known by its first line, Rede me and be nott wrothe, For I say no things but trothe included a reference to a blue moon:

"Yf they saye the mone is belewe, We must beleve that it is true."

A blue moon was a synonym for absurdity - considered to be as likely as the moon being made out of green cheese. This imagery was called on in John Frith's exhaustively entitled essay A pistle to the christen reader; the reuelation of antichrist: antithesis wherein are compared togeder Christes actes and oure holye father the Popes, 1529

"They wold make men beleue... that ye mone is made of grene chese."

I haven't checked the above (hoax stories abound), but it sounds good (apart from the moon not beeing made of cream cheese). Maybe it's a red-herring.

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12/09/2008 2:26 PM

A blue moon would then be meant as an event that happens rarely such as may be seene (me olde Englifh is not up to fcratch) upon occasion through fog laden smogs (or smog laden fogs) and volcanic eruptions...........

Idiots, on the other hand, were men of ancient Greece who held no political office.

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12/09/2008 3:50 PM

And in America, what went round, came round, and we call the ones who DO hold office "idiots". When we're speaking in polite company, that is.

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12/10/2008 1:24 AM

I like portmanto portmintox ptrmantua joined-up words ! It's all ludicrous, a bit like the thread about "is the Galaxy milky" (or some such) - it can't really be anything else.

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12/10/2008 7:34 AM

Ah, well then......you'd be perfectly at home in our parliament which sits in a town called Acronymityville.

ps we Canucks have just been blessed with a gov't of which the Separatist party (le Bloc Quebecois) just got to run the whole damn country (don't ask). Tis not bizarre, tis a comedy comprised of listening to the flushing of toilets when our parliament is in session. We call it gov't........it can't be anything else either.

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12/10/2008 8:00 AM

I heard you got it good - two airline seats for the price of one. And you get to speak Frenchish.

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12/10/2008 8:29 AM

Yep.Canada is a wonderfull place. The ability to speak no known language and still be understood ranks high with lexicographic proclivity...eh!

God......that made international headlines?............Much to the detriment of our national airline (affectionately known as Scair Air) the McDonalds' flying hamburger club has won the day here. Most airports are extending their runways.

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12/10/2008 9:58 AM

Jinglish! After 40 yrs in Ca I understood every word of it except the part about proroguing parliament.¿ he he...........

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12/10/2008 11:33 AM

You did WHAT to Parliament? Maybe Guy Fawkes had the right idea. Wrong Parliament, though, I guess. Or was that Buckingham Palace? We Colonialists have such a short history, yours gives us headaches.

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12/10/2008 12:03 PM

Prorogue.....no kidding........the whole damn country woke up on Monday to a whole new word nobody'd ever heard of before.

Many thought that parliament was serving pirogis...........I thot they were sent downstream in a pirogue........niagara falls came to mind

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12/10/2008 1:45 PM

I just read the wikipedia historical entry on prorogation. Who knew? Sounds like more political shenanigans, to me. One more example of the degradation in meaning of the term "idiot", which, as noted above, originally meant one who DID NOT hold public office. NOW, all who do, are!

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12/10/2008 3:50 PM

It's remarkable how things get turned about...given we just had the damn election 7 weeks ago!

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12/10/2008 2:35 PM

The truth is out - Gordon Browns ego finally exploded through his cranium as he claimed to have saved the world. Given the config pressure due to having his head stuck up his a#^e, the seismic shock waves must be reaching Canada about now !

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12/10/2008 3:37 PM

He and Al Gore should get together. After all, Al Gore invented the internet. So now, Gordon Brown saved the world (From what is the question, though. Maybe the internet?)

Anyway, two saviors egos in one world. That ought to keep them fighting each other for control long enough for us to slip out the back way and get LONG gone.

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12/10/2008 3:44 PM

Ha haaa...that's gonna stick to him like molasses! Self-monumentalizing slip of the proverbial tongue was it? Or just Freudian?

Ours over-inflated on self importance and was about to crown himself emperor.

Been watching 'Yes Minister/ Prime Minister"...came on the tube a few weeks back.........spot on piece of work that!

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12/11/2008 9:16 AM

I'll have to see if I can find a feed here in the US. It sounds good. Maybe we can have one of those on Congress and the White House, along with the Supreme Court one of these days. Why is it that people like Judge Judy, and Judge Joe Brown (or whomever) seem to know how to do THEIR jobs, and our politicians look like the animals they use to iconify their parties? Especially the Jack-Ass ones? And why in the world don't we elect the Judge Judy types to office, and chuck the idiots?

Oh, I know. Its because the ones who know what they are doing wouldn't take the office if you gave it to them. That's probably the best way to know they AREN'T idiots.

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12/11/2008 10:27 AM

I hope you can get it. It's a very well done series. Whoever wrote it must have gotten his humour from working in the Brit parliament.

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12/11/2008 10:50 AM

Thanks for the tip. I'll hunt. May be able to find a path from my bud in England, too. I find him Inspector Morse, he finds this one for me. HMMM, good trade. Specially if we can get his daughter to come over to visit, and bring them along, and take her Dad's back with her. Used goods, of course.

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