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FA-18 Is Flying Too Damn Terrifyingly Close to That Building

Posted July 16, 2009 2:16 PM

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I don't know what that person on the balcony is thinking, but I need a change of underpants. And no, it's not a photoshop, it's a real, untouched photo by Steve Perez for the Associated Press. The photo was taken at a demonstration flight by the U.S. Navy during the 2009 Chrysler Jeep Superstores APBA Detroit Gold Cup.

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07/16/2009 2:34 PM

Awesome....must've had the burners down or else that bird woulda shattered a lot of glass

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07/16/2009 10:23 PM

One wag wondered (?) if it was not a trick of perspective. Telephoto lenses 'compress' distance, much like the movie images of enormous sunsets, with Indiana Jones riding 'henceforth'.

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07/17/2009 12:47 AM

Exactly right.

I'll bet that the aircraft is nowhere as near as it appears.

Great shot, although.

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07/16/2009 11:23 PM

This would have been good on "Caption This"...!!!

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07/17/2009 12:16 AM

"Caption: What really made the Tippycanoe cat go apeshit?"

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07/17/2009 5:27 AM

Chris, (I'd tell ya, but then I'd havta .... ..)

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07/17/2009 1:12 AM

...wonder if the window cleaner got the fright of his life?

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07/17/2009 2:01 AM

wingspan : 40 feet,

so i don't have a clue what the code for height of a room is. or the railings code.

years ago while in Germany ,

the Lockheed F104 was in the Luftwaffe; the pilots did some very fine , very impressive flying w/ that bird.

The Snowbirds also perform very impressive formation flying in their shows.

so i , for one , accept the skill level to accomplish this fly by.

..photo shop skills , i don't have any, so i am fooled over that.

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07/17/2009 5:51 AM

Well if you consider that the average height of a room is 2400mm or 8 feet on the old money add say 300mm or 1 foot as the depth of the floor/ceiling (it is a apartment building). Id say 2700mm / 9foot a floor. That would do for rough estimate for someone to do an estimate how close the plane is to the building.

It'd be a WTF! moment for anyone in that building during the flypast.

Certainly get me out of bed! LOL!

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07/17/2009 6:01 AM

"Hey, buddy. Get in line at the drive in counter, like everybody else!"

Oh, sorry. This isn't the Friday "Caption this" thread. Never mind.

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07/17/2009 7:14 AM

Pilots get in BIG trouble for buzzing flight towers. So I doubt if its as close to the building as it looks. It's got to be a perspective thing. Wouldn't the person on the balcony get quite a bit of wind turbulance even at the jets lowest speed if it were really that close?

I've been beat up by the air coming off Nascar cars while working at the track. And they don't move nearly as much air as a jet does do they?

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07/17/2009 12:15 PM

during the show .. the pattern is closed to all other traffic..

permission is granted .

might be kinda loud..over 110 dba.. exhaust is pointed away from the building in this outside manouver.

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07/17/2009 7:44 AM

In a surprise development, Pizza Gogo tries a new high-speed delivery option.

More at ten.

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07/17/2009 8:41 AM

Bah, that 18 is flying over the Detroit River, well away from the building. The photographer had a really long lens, as evidenced by the blurred tree(?) in the foreground, with the building and plane in focus.

I've seen closer at Virginia Beach with the 18's on their standard approach to NAS Oceana.

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07/17/2009 8:46 AM

....and to they deliver pizzas too?

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07/17/2009 9:23 AM

...via onboard missile delivery system only.

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07/20/2009 4:41 PM

Actually, I think it would be a real hoot if they loaded up the ejection seat with it, fired it out in a knife edge pass. Course, if the apartment didn't have an open window, the window cleaners would REALLY have something to fret about, then.

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07/20/2009 4:52 PM

But missile delivery could be done from 30+ miles out...

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07/20/2009 5:13 PM

Really cool. Heat seeking pizza. But what would you do if the pizza got cold? Oh, never mind THAT. The real problem would be when the pizza locked onto itself, if it was REALLY, REALLY hot? I can see the pizza waffling around the sky chasing itself, instead of arriving at the party it was ordered for.

Oh, never mind. I'm getting silly, so I'm going to bed!

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07/21/2009 4:34 AM

<...the pizza waffling around the sky chasing itself, instead of arriving at the party it was ordered for...>

Ah! Put some spin on it so it behaves like a Frisbee! That sould keep it under control!

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07/21/2009 10:07 AM

I don't know. You ever play disc golf? I do, and put spin on it all the time. And if that gave me any control, I could shoot par! But since I can't, I guess it doesn't!

Nonetheless, I keep trying. Dumb maybe? But I like the game.

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07/21/2009 8:16 AM

We could always mount a JDAM video unit on the thing so we could get an up close and personal view of the delivery!!!!

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07/17/2009 11:43 AM

Like this photo of a C-17 taking off from the airbase at Bagram. Of course the folks who forwarded this one around intimate that the plane is landing, but the clouds of dust are the clue it is taking off because aircraft landing don't raise much dust until they are much closer to the ground. This photographer used a long lens and took the picture at the southern end of the airstrip near where they set up the Friday bazaar.

It's a 10,000 ft runway so there is plenty of room to take off and land.

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07/17/2009 1:55 PM

Tippycanoe is exactly right; telephoto lenses compress the field of view so as to exaggerate the closeness of objects so that far objects seem closer to each other as well as closer to the camera.

Wide angle lenses do the opposite and exaggerate the distance between near and far subjects.

If you have digital camera with a generous zoom range, try shooting an object using a varity of focal lengths with you standing in the same place. Then, using the same variety of focal lengths, shoot the same object again only this time you move forward or backward to keep the object the same size in the viewfinder. The results will give you a good illustration of how this distortion works.

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07/17/2009 9:48 PM

I hope the guy on the balcony had earplugs.

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07/19/2009 4:53 PM

Tippycanoe for the explanation BSR for illustrating it very nicely!

Wish *I'D been the one on the balcony!

Trivia* Why do they call the F-18 E and F Rhinos?

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07/19/2009 8:10 PM

The explanation was easy to any photographer with more than one lens in the bag. What blows me away about the shot is the timing. An auto-X or motorized rapid fire camera could not have nailed it like that. The photog had to have guessed correctly when the plane, flying at what, 200 MPH, would emerge from the edge of the building, pressed the shutter button, and recorded in 1/1000 sec. what couldn't have been a set up.

Probably traded his left testicle for it. Probably will when his wife points out he was supposed to be on a fishing trip.

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He was probably using the rapid fire sequence mode and following the subject. It's not that difficult with some practice. It's fun, too. I retired from the Navy as a photographer and have shot the Blues many times over the years.

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07/19/2009 11:47 PM

One of the things I wish I could have taken with me from the Navy was the lovely 70mm camera kit we carried on the P-3s.

Short and long lenses, great optics, fast winder and high res b&W, color, and IR film. Lots of options.

That would be something fun to find in the surplus stream, but I never evn knew who made it.

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07/20/2009 12:14 AM

As I recall, the Navy used either Bronicas or Hasalblads with 70mm backs. I cannot remember which the VP squadrons had. Some had 70mm, hand held airiel cameras with a fixed focus (KE28 comes to mind).

Digital SLR is the only way to go these day, over a thousand shots on a 4 gig memory card.

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07/20/2009 8:46 AM

Ah well, shouldn't confuse my nostalgia with technical excellence

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07/19/2009 8:25 PM

don't know , why?

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07/20/2009 11:42 PM

'cause it is blind, heavy and dangerous

Radar problems, gross weight increases, still great weapons systems

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love that locker room humor

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