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Genius Box and Cleaner Warning

05/07/2015 9:17 PM

I've been frustrated for a long time after getting a new computer with Windows 8.1, but Win 8.1 was not the problem. Most of the times I checked my Email, I would get an error message: "Proxy Server Not found." I learned how to turn the proxy server off, but I had to do it almost every time I read my email. There was also a suspicious incidence of the DOS-like CMD.EXE screen popping up and then going away after a second or less. My antivirus software (free AVG) found nothing.

My son uses Linux, and for it BitDefender is free. He was able to make a BitDefender rescue CD that I could boot up in my Windows machine and check for viruses without my windows being active. It found Genius Box (Adware?) and removed it. That fixed the proxy server problem, and the CMD.EXE screen hasn't been seen since.

I got a message that Ccleaner had a new version to download. I started to do it, but there were 4 steps, and the last one would have put Genius Box back in. I cancelled and deleted Ccleaner entirely and downloaded it again from SourceForge.net. It was version 3.1.x. Then I clicked on the "check for updates" link within the program. It brought me to the same website as before (FileHippo.com). There were 3 "buttons" to click on to download the program. I clicked on a different one this time, and it got me version 5.05.x. This time there was only 1 step.

I find it appalling that a link in a program would take you to a site that can lead you astray. How do you feel about that?

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Re: Genius Box and Ccleaner Warning

05/07/2015 9:58 PM

Appalling, yes.

Uncommon, no.

Nothing is free.

I have opened sites recommended by Windoze that do this.

Most of them want money to do what was implied as free.

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Re: Genius Box and Ccleaner Warning

05/07/2015 10:46 PM

You can find plenty of sites in internet without any kind of commercial interest from users.But such kind of sites are very limited.However, majority of the other sites want heavy traffic,so that they can attract more advertisers.

advertisement = Money.

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05/07/2015 11:11 PM

"What is GeniusBox?

Developed by TGF Interactive, GeniusBox is a browser extension (an add-on) claiming to enhance the Internet search experience by displaying quick search results from many websites such as Flickr, YouTube, eBay, and Amazon. While this added functionality may seem useful, there is a downside to using GeniusBox: this browser extension tracks users' browsing habits and displays unwanted ads when visiting popular search engines such as Google, Bing, or Yahoo! These unwanted ads are labelled 'About this GeniusBox ad' and 'TGF Interactive'. Users often install this browser add-on without their consent, since developers of this browser plug-in employ a marketing method called 'bundling', and in most cases it is installed together with free software downloaded from the Internet.

Today, many popular download websites (including download.com, softonic.com, etc.) use 'download clients' offering installation of additional programs with the downloaded free software. Commonly, these promoted programs are potentially unwanted browser add-ons and toolbars, which add little value to the browsing experience and cause redirect problems, unwanted ads, and privacy issues. Genius Box is a potentially unwanted program (PUP) that causes diminished browser performance. Using this add-on may lead to security and privacy issues, and therefore, you are strongly advised to remove it from your Internet browsers (Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, and Mozilla Firefox)."

http://www.pcrisk.com/removal-guides/7227-remove-genius-box-adware

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05/07/2015 11:27 PM

What about opera?

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05/07/2015 11:42 PM

Not a fan....

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05/08/2015 5:43 AM

//(Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, and Mozilla Firefox)//

You didn't mention opera browser.

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05/08/2015 10:01 AM

Not a fan....

Opera bowser...

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05/08/2015 12:33 PM

OK;No problem.

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05/08/2015 12:39 PM

" opera's browser" ? I'm pretty sure she wears one. The effects of gravity would be obvious.

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05/08/2015 10:24 AM

Now its over....

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05/09/2015 1:56 AM

It may be different if you listen rather than look. Check out Amira Willenhagen.

Singer Alessandra Marc does more recitals than operas, I think, but like the picture is built large. Her voice, larger yet, makes not only your spinal hairs stand on end.

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05/08/2015 12:23 PM

Great comments, SE, most of which I was aware of. I still have 2 lingering questions:

1. Why did Genius Box keep turning on the proxy server?

2. Why was there an extreme range of version #s of Ccleaner from SourceForge (3.1) to FileHippo (5.05)?

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05/08/2015 1:41 PM

1. Why did Genius Box keep turning on the proxy server?

It's redirecting your searches through another server to attach ads....

2. Why was there an extreme range of version #s of Ccleaner from SourceForge (3.1) to FileHippo (5.05)?

Version history with explanations....

https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/version-history

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05/09/2015 10:58 AM

I accept your answer to #1, but you apparently misunderstood #2, so I will rephrase it: Why does SourceForge (the only site I trust) have such an old version of Ccleaner? Could it be they do not trust the later versions?

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05/08/2015 4:51 AM

I use Flashpeak Slimbrowser. No ads at all.

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05/08/2015 12:42 PM

Thanks for the info.I didn't try this software so far.my favourites are google,opera,mozilla and internet explorer.

Internet explorer is very slow in my computer, so I have no interest in it. google and mozilla are the performers in my laptop. opera is the builtin software in my smartphone.

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05/08/2015 7:01 AM

A salutary reminder to check each screen every time you install anything. Many programmes are subsidised by getting you to change browsers, search engines or other items.

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05/08/2015 2:28 PM

Lots of "free" software comes with adware and browser hijackers if not viruses, especially if you select the "Express Install". In the end, your computer will be bogged down to the point where you can't get anything done.

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05/08/2015 4:04 PM

To start with, there are no such thing as free..... and depending on the situation..... I'll select to pay to get what is needed..... of course depending on the situation.

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05/08/2015 4:44 PM

Sure is!

This web site is free.

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05/08/2015 7:17 PM

Is it? CR4 gets paid by advertisers, we pay by pop ups

It's just that situation is acceptable to me.

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05/08/2015 4:54 PM

Since several of you have said there is nothing free, let me ask you this: Does the paid version(s) of Ccleaner take you to FileHippo when you click on the "check for updates" link, and does it have several download "buttons" that can lead you astray? The same question applies to other paid software.

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05/09/2015 4:53 AM

This is very sadly "normal" for today. It appears to happen to "free" software only in my experience....

You did the right thing.

I use "Malwarebytes Anti-Malware" for the same reasons. It is not free, but the premium version is not expensive and can be used on up to 3 computers (if I remember correctly). It runs in the background, but slows things up very little.

Sadly, it is not Ubuntu compatible for my main laptop....

It also finds and clears PUPs and Rootkits, and it also prevents other Malware from changing it.

My opinion is it finds far more bad stuff than any free software that I have seen, but I've not tested it properly as say a good computer magazine would, but sometime ago I used a free software, which cleaned some stuff (it may even have been Ccleaner!), then I tested Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and it literally found dozens of other infestations. So I bought it!!

Since then, it only finds one or two infestations each month....

I have never regretted it one second. Others here also use it....ask for opinions from others as well to get a good picture.

I can only that it keeps my (Windoze) computer clean.....no problems.

Best of luck, you did really well!!

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05/09/2015 7:13 AM

I also use the paid for Malwarebytes at home, 1 copy on 3 PCs, & use the free version on my work PC (no ads or hidden programmes but less functionality). All of these machines have been trouble free for a long time. I also use the paid for Tracks Eraser Pro which, I believe does a deeper clean than Ccleaner.

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05/09/2015 10:54 AM

Thanks, Andy, and to the rest of you. Clamwin Antivirus is free for Ubunto, and there is a windows version that is free too. Sadly, it sometimes finds a false positive (a virus that is not real, but part of a good program). This brings up a point: a program that finds more infestations than others is not necessarily a good thing - they may be false finds to sell you on the product. Truth is very hard to find these days.

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05/10/2015 7:48 AM

Up to now, no "false" positives....

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