First We Need to Learn to Tie Our Shoes and Play Nice

Too bad about the all-caps title.

It's all good.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4416476226001/eagle-vs-drone-eagle-wins/?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips&v=4416476226001

Awesome!

First and foremost we need to get all the politicians in front of a ramp and jump 'em with a bulldozer.

Secondly we need to have transponders on these drones so at least we can find out which idiot it belongs too.

Third we need to promote Darwinism, stop put silly labels on things that help eliminate stupid people like on a methanol can that says DO NOT TAKE INTERNALLY! and CANNOT BE MADE NON POISONOUS!

Fourth start shooting them down, I find that a shotgun blast will usually render a drone quite unflyable.

JMHO

So much for playing nice huh?

Shotguns aren't very popular around airports in urban areas either.

Gotta get 'em right as they clear the underbrush when you flush 'em out.

I notice you didn't disagree with the rest of my comments I find that strangely satisfying.

Not true.

The annual national championship trap competition was held 82 years just outside the Dayton International Airport.

The Grand American Trapshooting Championships has since moved to Sparta, Ill., but had been at the Dayton Airport since 1924.

How far outside the airport?

Trap shooting is a 'low altitude' sport, it probably does not reach to the second layer of the airports 'inverted layer cake' of controlled airspace. I would also suspect that the shooting range was set to the shotguns were pointed AWAY from the airport.

When I was a kid, my Scout Troop would go to Camp Ft. Dearborn, just a couple of miles from O'Hare International Airport, for our Rocketry Outings. These rockets, most of which were Estes kits (only a couple of the 'almost ready to age out of the troop' scouts would try their hand at the larger rockets, but never anything using bigger than the standard range of Estes rocket engines), could not get high enough to interfere with airport operations, or even be noticed by the airport's radar. We were specifically, repeatedly, and sternly warned by the adult leaders against putting shredded aluminum in as a payload, since that, once thrown into the air by the rocket's ejection charge would 'mess with the airport radar.' (The adults never went into detail, but we had an idea what would happen, the resulting cloud of 'chaff' would look like a plane that had been flying under the radar pulling up into the radar field as it exploded. Not the sort of prank you want to pull on highly-stressed air traffic controllers; those guys are wound up so tight the shock might cause them to spontaneously explode like Hollywood 'blood bags' as the internal tension overwhelms their skeletal strength.) (Goofy Halloween gore-fest aside, those guys DO have incredibly high-stress jobs, and don't need any more stress dumped onto them.)

if a Tesla and a Jeep can be hacked as they move just hire a dozen teenagers they'll figure out how to crash the drones

Jamming any RF signal violates a host of international laws. Good luck with that one.

Unless the government does it...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/31/AR2009013101548.html

Under very limited circumstances.

The idea of trying to jam an airfield, where RF communications and avionics are a must, is a nightmare. The cure may be far worse than the problem.

Just what frequencies would you propose to jam? The RF spectrum is a wide field and you can't jam the whole spectrum just to prevent a few loose cannons.

You jam one frequency and people will just find another.

Let Congress handle it. they'll come up with some swell laws that will keep the people with good intentions from ever buying a drone, let alone fly one, but allow the terrorists or criminally insane a very nice loop hole so they can use one to take down planes. Guaranteed.

We could go back to balsa wood and rubber bands.

We have "engineering solutions" (gun locks, cabinets, etc) to help "self-police" people with guns ...how's that working for us? Until the people with the drones get some idea of what "responsibility" means, this will continue to be a problem. You can't fix stupid!

My guess is that people believe responsibility has become overrated and have since stopped preaching that politically incorrect word and are substituting the word entitlement in its place.

My guess is that people believe responsibility has become overrated and have since stopped preaching that politically incorrect word and are substituting the word entitlement in its place.

I've been saying that for 20 years and no-one listens.

Good points.

Agreed.

GA

Very well said.

Thank you

Think about the details concerning "Drones" and the fact that there are Flying fields dedicated to model aircraft enthusiasts (at least in the county forest preserves where I live), with regulations such as requirement for insurance, so on and so forth.

There are probably a number of engineering solutions, but responsibility would have to come first.

Consider car commercials where "Horsepower" is back in the picture.

Consider motorcycles with 100+ horsepower.

Horsepower is legal.

Flying in restricted airspace without authorization is not.

Yes, responsible operators are not the problem.

We went to the moon with slide rules and drafting tables, maybe there's a solution to this dilemma.

Horsepower is legal, abuse of it is not.

Drones are easy to fly, even for those with Velcro instead of shoelaces.

Playing "nice" is open to interpretation.

I see some sort of device, much like the one that allows operation of a car after passing a breathalyzer test, modified as a flawed thought process detector.

Maybe we could round up all the slide rules and then throw them (one at a time) at the drones.

Maybe we could make a drone that shoots the slide rules at other drones?

Have you seen the cost of slide rules lately?

No... I have a couple I could donate?

Donate it to me!

Have a look at eBay for the prices they get for those things. You will b surprised.

No, but I still have the Pickett log-log slide rule I bought in 1966.

Fire hose worked well... http://www.cnet.com/news/watch-firefighters-blast-drone-out-of-sky-with-hose/

Ummmmm ....It looks more like they sprinkled it because it lands just fine!

The engineering solution I prose is this: build a very large containment vessel with a single entrance door lockable from the outside only. Usher all the politicians and their influences/buyers inside, then shut and lock the door. Maybe even weld it shut and destroy the key.

You're not going far enough.

All that hot air inside would blow the top off any containment vessel!

Send them to Mars. That would make a better realty show.

If drones are outlawed, only outlaws will have drones.....

Gotta go my six pack is arriving....

Is it a corset?

Your arriving six-pack, that is.

Actually it looks like a carton of baby wipes?????

Ha ha, I'm well past trying to impress anybody....what you see is what you get...

Drone problem solved:

http://trends.directindustry.com/news-trends/china-unveils-its-drone-killing-laser-weapon-system/

Hell,

They make all the drones so why not build a drone killer.

Shoot down a drone and now they need another one.

Repeat business. Good thinking!