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The Implosion Motor Based on the Clem Engine

04/09/2016 9:32 AM

Hi all,

This is the first test on this implosion motor based on the story of Richard Clem and Viktor Schauberger theories.

First test without pumping fluid into the upper centrifugal pump

Motor/pump test : 114.5V * 3.6A = 412.2 W

Second test pumping fluid into the upper centrifugal pump.

Motor/pump load: 115.7V * 2.89A = 334.4w

Extra energy gain of :412.2W -- 334.4W =77.8w due to centrifugal force implosion (Vacuum) effect.

First test run:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghTVMoPm1-Y

Second test run:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTqdkJVt9w

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04/12/2016 4:23 PM

I gave some basic numbers for the start of a debate, I'm still waiting on where these calculation are off.

Once we get past that stage, I will show where this extra energy is at.

Whats the difference between pumping fluid head pressure or pulling it the same direction?

None at all, in hydraulics you have a positive and negative pressure, my system work off the negative pressure created by rotating a mass of fluid and allowing to freely move outward at 90deg.

Does not look like many have experimented in this area at all, I would think by now someone would challenge my basic formulas even if it's not formula you're not use too.

Engineering they teach these complex numbers thinking your learning something, when in fact its a basics numbers to make your ego boost!

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04/12/2016 5:22 PM

Pure gibberish.

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04/12/2016 5:41 PM

Wait a second, did you not want some numbers. this is just the first parts.

I thought you where going to verify my formulas, before I explain where this energy is being created.

Tornado, what gibberish is it you can't do the math or what?

I know you all wanted me to play the engineer math skills, it's a joke to think that proves anything.

This is just as good and very simple even a caveman can do..

The extra energy is from centrifugal inertia that pulls fluid from the center outward at 90deg and creates a negative pressure at the same time.

Due to the fact it's not rotating in a pump housing, makes it even more efficient.

Yes it's a tornado oil spout that's being created, if the oil was heating up the viscosity would increase the flow adding more power output.

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04/12/2016 5:52 PM

No, I am not going to verify your formulas, because they are not verifiable.

The rest of your post is just word salad full of phrases that make no engineering or scientific sense.

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04/12/2016 6:02 PM

So wait, I calculated thrust, speed and gpm and you wanted me to do it another way?

I seen this in collage also, they want you to use foolish numbers to make it harder for anyone not doing these classes, when it's a ego way of say it's to complex..

My number are correct, you can get your program out and just copy the basic specs if that makes it easy for you.

I'm starting to question your math skills, anyone can pull numbers from the internet, but my numbers are calculated in such a easy way that a cavemen could do it.

I have to question your own skills know.

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04/12/2016 7:18 PM

I don't doubt that you "seen [sic] this in collage [sic]". I went to college, too, and graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude. I majored in math, studied physics, and am retired from over forty years of close work with designing, specifying, using, and maintaining pumps and other industrial-refrigeration-related equipment. And here you are trying to tell me I don't know stuff. So don't give me any guff about ego.

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04/12/2016 7:26 PM

For someone who claims to know about pump, you can tell your students that, but i'm not your student so stop the ego pops!

The question is what have you learn, don't give me a history report of your life.

What patents do you have or the pumps did you design, being at your age you must have created something?

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04/12/2016 7:43 PM

For instance, I have designed pumps built "from the ground up" out of plate formed into an Archimedean spiral and pipe sectors as impeller vanes welded to a shaft. Much more of my design work was in the form of sizing and selecting pumps and compressors, etc., for various duties; and also designing, building, and wiring UL-508 industrial control panels.

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04/12/2016 5:53 PM

First of all, the first test shows a constant load without the upper centrifugal pump connected.

The second test show a drop of input energy due to centrifugal inertia forces at work from the upper pump.

Even with the leaks and wrong hydraulic motor, you still see a drop of input energy.

Where is this energy being created, very simple take any flywheel and spin it at it's limit and what happens is it explodes.

But inside that mass, the atoms the hold the wlywheel together is being forced at a 90deg.

This same effect happens to liquid, instead of exploding it keeps pulling more fluid from the center outward.

Very simple to understand, and a real fact when you spin a flywheel.

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04/12/2016 6:05 PM

I bet you can't tell us the formula for centripetal acceleration without looking it up. You haven't used it yet in any of your "calculations." And you are still using garbled mishmash phrases.

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04/12/2016 8:01 PM

Second video showing the same set up, but now feed the output from the hydraulic motor into the upper vacuum cone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYctoOGA6DY

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04/12/2016 6:55 PM

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

You are simply, somehow reducing the load on the electric motor that drives the pump.

Do you have a pressure/flow gauge on your line?

I agree that you do not know what drives a tornado, too.

You are hopelessly in over your head and have produced nothing of any scientifically verifiable use.

While I am not a mathematician, I have been around pumps long enough to know what they will and will not do.

Again, your contraption produces no output!

Your overunity friends may fawn over your tinkered device and your DVM may wow them, but all of that impresses no one on this forum.

Facts. We're looking for facts.

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04/12/2016 7:12 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKnAiVxfdNM

This video was the first load test while pumping fluid out of the lower pump and motor but not up in the centrifugal vacuum pump.

"While I am not a mathematician", I believe that one.

It's funny but if you know anything about pump, you have to know the mathematics also.

Any way this is the first load test pump fluid in the hydraulic pump/motor without the feed tube to the upper centrifugal vacuum pump.

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04/12/2016 7:26 PM

You are completely delusional and ignorant. That is an honest observation and not intended as an insult, although you will no doubt think it is.

I keep hanging with your over-unity friends if I were you.

You'll never convince anyone here that you have any basis in fact in that useless contraption.

I'm finished wasting time here. <AMF>

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You need to read the whole thread and figure out correctly who is insulting whom, how much, and how often.

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Hit me once with a insult, and I hit back ten times.

Just what a bully would say when someone fights back. I only insulted once, but he insulted me ten times.

Please leave this form, cry babies are not welcome on my forum.

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Do you think God is on your side? You keep bringing up his name.

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Dan, we, (CR4 members) realize that you and other Moderators have better things to do than babysit CR4, but TommeyReed is completely out of control. If you read through the 3 different threads he makes claims "this is my site"? I didn't realize IHS sold CR4 to TommeyReed.

He is not only rude and obnoxious to all members of CR4, but he has also made threats of physical harm to members of CR4. I, myself, am not worried about him. But, in this day and age, is not the time nor funny to make threatening physical harm statements.

I'm sure the other senior members of CR4 would agree that it's time to close all of TommeyReed's Threads,

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04/13/2016 9:36 PM

I can find no value in continuing this folly.

But then, I keep coming back to it, don't I.

Maybe we're the masochists. Or is it sadists? I don't know.

I find it ironic that the following quote, about Tommey Reed, was made on Aug. 7th 2013:

"He does not tolerate fools, and has no time for the endless revolving door of overunity claims made by people without data or evidence."

The Richard Clem Engine by Tommey Reed - Revolution ...

This thread reminds me of a rock opera:

Ever since I was a young boy
I've played the silver ball
From Soho down to Brighton
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But I ain't seen nothing like him
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Always gets a replay
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That is toooo funny!!!!!!!!!

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04/12/2016 8:33 PM

Bye bye, not a single data to back your own claims by the way.

I gave you numbers, but all I got from you was nothing but insults with words like delusional and ignorant.

Have you looked in the mirror lately?

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

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04/12/2016 8:28 PM

The reduced load is because there is reduced work being done, as you correctly point out.

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04/12/2016 8:38 PM

What?

Are you blind, it's the same load on both test, the only different is the second test is connected to the upper vacuum chamber but still pumping the fluid from the lower pump.

It seem like I will have to redo these two video due to the fact nobody with eyes can see.

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You have a vacuum, ergo;- reduced liquid flow, reduced work done, reduced energy required. You have the eyes and the hands on AND the advice of learned people, use them. Once you understand you will be able to put your superior intellect to good use to develop a new......

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04/12/2016 8:54 PM

Again the vacuum is on the exit port of the output of the hydraulic motor, not the input of it..

What are you smoking, I explain in the past...

I would agree is a vacuum was in the pump input fluid, but it's not!

Motor rotates suck up fluid and pumps it in to a vacuum chamber, got it?

vacuum is created in the upper cone from rotation inertia, got it?

Talking about me with problems, boy looks like the other way around.

Jim, bye bye...clearly your on the wrong page in the forum..

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04/12/2016 9:08 PM

Completely incoherent. Moreover, there are not enough gauges and meters in proper locations to tell much of anything about what is going on.

Have you specified whether the motors involved are AC or DC?

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I went to look at the video of the second test, and YouTube says that the uploader has closed his account. Somebody is getting smarter by the minute.

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Let's start out with a pipe that is 18" long, now kids get the fingers out of your mouth.

The pipe is 0.25 id, now that's the inner diameter so pay attention.

When you drill a center tap say 0.25 and attach another pipe to it like the letter " T ", can we say " T " boys and girls?

Now lets go around in circle, yes but not in the play ground yet.

We are going to spin this " T " at a rate of 1000 rpm, like running in a circle, but very fast.

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First of all - it's you're too blind (a contraction for you are) - not "your". Secondly you keep insulting the intelligence of forum members. Just GO !!!!!!

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That still didn't answer any questions of an engineering nature that have been asked. Instead, you resort to juvenile playground insults, because that's all you have.

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First of all this forum is about the Clem engine, not my ego or anyone else.

I don't play to be a engineer with fancy numbers to make me look smart, that a joke and you know it.

I gave simple calculation that most can understand, boy was I wrong.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."

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You are still not addressing any engineering topics, only making mistakes and spouting insults. Engineering is not about playing with fancy numbers to make one look smart. Your comments are illiterate, innumerate, and devoid of understanding.

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More irrelevant drivel. I have been a journeyman pipefitter, so telling me about pipe is ridiculous.

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Did Tommey implode?

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Perhaps the weirdest thing is that nothing we have seen so far about this alleged engine constitutes an implosion in the first place. But then, this guy has lots of spelling, vocabulary, and phrasing issues.

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For me, the weirdest thing is that he would actually come back a THIRD TIME, with nothing new to add after be so soundly rejected as a fake the first two times he was here.

He seems to have plenty of "admirers" in the over-unity community.

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Explode --- hopefully.

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Wow what babies, If you look back at the past few years who started the insults first?

All you have to do is go on a different forum, I have no problem debating.

Most of you know it's all fun and games at the end, I think it's funny when some of you take it personal.

But there are time when some are just bullies, well I can bully back fools.

Over all I posted this to have my own forum, you can all leave if you want.

I will update on my research, and if I get it running to a point I will post it here.

Remember bullies can't push me around, so be nice and I will also.

have a good day.

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