Dinosaurs Declining Before Asteroid Hit

Global cooling...?

And global warming might bring them back!

GMO chickens....

We already have a bunch of prehistoric creatures down here in Florida....

We know we read your posts every day.

See the Gary Larson cartoon--they were smoking.

Them and the unicorns both.

--The Irish Rovers

Great band - very entertaining!

Saw them live in Yakima, maybe mid 1970s, and they did put on a good show.

I only saw them on youtube after getting in touch with my Irish musical roots, along with other bands like the Dubliners and others. I started playing traditional Irish folk songs with a band at a bar called the Dubliner in Wilmington, NC.

The way I happened onto the Irish Rovers is through a search for the SONG "The Irish Rover":

• On the Fourth of July 1806 we set sail from the sweet cove of Cork
• We were sailing away with a cargo of bricks for the grand City Hall in New York
• 'twas a wonderful craft, she was rigged fore and aft and oh, how the wild wind drove her
• She stood several blasts, she had twenty-seven masts and they called her the Irish Rover

Guinness all around!

My favorite Gary Larson...

"An instant later, both Professor Waxman and his time machine are obliterated, leaving the cold-blooded / warm-blooded dinosaur debate still unresolved."

Gary Larson S, Cartoon Ideeën, Comics Gary, Far Side Cartoons, Funny Cartoons, Dino Humor, Fall Side, Side Animals

the far side cartoons in color - Google Search

By far my most favorite Far Side cartoon

The Far Side- animals

We're in the sixth extinction. Don't you watch the x-files?

No, but I have caught a glimpse of it, as I have recorded it for the son-in-law. must be good?

If you like sci-fi/mystery/cop shows, yeah, it is good!

Canceled. C/P didn't appear to work.

I find sometimes Chrome doesn't work for pictures and I switch to IE.

<..Why....the dinosaurs went extinct?...>

Were they were forced out by peer pressure from other, evolutionarily-more-successful, CR4 readers?

:-P

Yes - the environment of earth has been shifting around for all of history, so why the big concern now? We may be helping it along a bit, but a change is going to happen with human input or not. If time travel ever comes to be, are we going back in time and trying to modify climate change so all the past species that have become extinct can survive?

"Yes - the environment of earth has been shifting around for all of history, so why the big concern now?"

Why now? Because now it's OUR hairless primate butts⁽¹⁾ on the line, not some overgrown lizards(2). Extinction is all well and good, circle of life and all that, but not when it looks like WE'RE the ones on the list to become "the extinct species known as..."

Notes:

1. If you dislike being called a primate, I apologize, but that is the correct branch for humans as a species. If your butt is NOT hairless, PLEASE do NOT tell me, I don't wanna know. That's why we all wear pants, so we don't have to SEE each other's butts all the time.
2. Reptiles, I know. I deliberately misspoke to point out how worrying about and fighting Climate Change is essentially a very selfish motive. "We're not saving the planet, barring a major nuclear exchange, we cannot do anything that would destroy this giant ball of rock. We're saving it's ability to keep US alive and happy!"
   

Humans are the most adaptive species among advanced life form, to ever be threatened. Our outcome should not be the same as the dinosaurs. Basically, we are not threatened but rather challenged. The predicted changes so far are easily over come, if we exclude engineering, by moving a bit. Go a bit into the next century and we might have to add some creative engineering, which we excel at, and the changes are simply, as I stated, challenges. Might also have to overcome some radical purists and re-engineer some plants or animal DNA eventually. Oh no -GMO.

Then when Yellowstone finally goes boom, we will have the opposite problem to over come.

"The predicted changes so far are easily over come, if we exclude engineering, by moving a bit."

How far do we move, and do we move everyone, or do we leave the poor to cluster in their huddled masses because they cannot afford to move themselves? Or do we just move the One percenters, the Once-lers, and leave everyone else in the wasteland like the Lorax in his field of stumps that used to be the forest he tried to protect?

"Then when Yellowstone finally goes boom, we will have the opposite problem to over come."

How did that bit from the old Futurama show go again?

Fry: I thought the planet was going to be made uninhabitable by Global Warming.

Lela: Oh it was. Thank God Nuclear Winter canceled it out.

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It's sad when people equate their religion to mean climate change denial, or treat Climate Change Denial AS their religion:

"In science it often happens that scientists say, "You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken," and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." - Carl Sagan, Keynote address at CSICOP conference (1987), as quoted in Do Science and the Bible Conflict? (2003) by Judson Poling, p. 30 (Via Wikiquote)

I never said climate change wasn't real - just not an Armageddon as the fanatics want us to believe. We can handle it. Might be tough on some - might make a billion $ for a few others. The poor can move as well as the rich - they have a whole lot less to move. The big issue is a proven psychological tendency by humans to not believe a coming danger will affect them. They choose to believe it will befall others. It won't happen here, they say, as the waters close around them.

Now the Yellowstone thing - there is a definite chance of that erupting someday - you are as foolish as the climate change nay sayers if you don't believe that. That has as much scientific evidence as the climate change does, yet people tend to disbelieve that as well. I think that will be closer to Armageddon than climate change, as that will be very rapid climate change. A lot tougher to adapt to if you aren't taken in the initial blast.

I never said the danger of the Yellowstone Caldera/Basin/Supervolcano wasn't real, just point out the strange logic you seemed to be using, looking to one disaster to counteract another.

And Climate Change isn't an Armageddon as in 'we have to fix things now of the planet goes poof in 2020,' what we are concerned about is how far can we push it with anthropocentric activities (and burning fossil fuels is DEFINITALY anthropocentric, I don't know of any oil drilling elephants of coal-mining canaries (they may be down there, but not as miners)) before we reach the point where we cannot 'swing things back.' We're already losing polar ice, and the more polar ice we lose, the less sunlight it can reflect back into space. Shrinking ice caps are a symptom AND a contributor to Climate Change. The big push is because we're not sure how close we are to the 'point of no return,' and the longer we wait, the longer politicians hem and haw, the longer we subsidise fossil fuel use and 'punish' renewable power, the closer we get to the point where it'll be too late.

I've looked at the data, and the reports, and I've changed my mind several times from "This is real?" to "this may not be real, we need to look at other factors," to "Crap, this *IS* real, why can't the politicians see it?" to "This is real, and the politicians, mainly Republicans, are obfuscating the issues fighting this will cut into the profits of their Corporate masters." We may have decades before it's too late, or we may only have a few years, but sitting on our butts saying 'It's not a problem,' is only going to cut down the time we'll have left when we DO act.