Hurricane Harvey

I guess they're all about ready for a few sunny days....

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USTX0617:1:US

The south of what?

Where have you been hiding the last week or so? Houston? The entire Texas Gulf Coast? over 30% of refining oil in the States? No way to ship out grain commodities (about half U.S. wheat, etc.)...Wake the heck up, and have some hot tea or something.

South of all those places.

Sounds like there is little or no coverage elsewhere in the world.

World response: Hey, it's the USA - they can take care of themselves.

My wife is still waiting to hear how much aid the rest of the world will be sending to the flooded areas.

That's the typical world response,... but the fact is,... we can.

a few Examples;

• California's Earth Quake.(multiple)
• Katrina (government bureaucracy failed. but private industry and citizens pulled together)
• Hurricane Andrew When it devastated Homestead, Florida and surrounding areas
• other hurricanes hitting the gulf and east coast.

People think its our government that makes this country great, its not, its this country's people and their ability to utilize the resources to get through this.

Now when natural disasters hit other country's, we are the first to give aid and relief. And I'm fine with that.

but with the direction of this thread, proceed with caution from this turning political, leave that up to the media.

I must have accidently hit the post anonymously button for the above post

I think we can all agree on that. We don't need the politics here.

Italy under Prime Minister Burlusconi was one of the first to offer assistance in 2001. Brother and wife with nephew and niece are in Houston. They are safe, but have significant property damage. Once it became a named storm, the insurance companies shut their doors. Expect to see a lot of FEMA blue for years to come. As for the charities, watch out Linda Sarsour has one, it is a PAC

Don't hold your breath. Maybe the U.S. needs to keep track of "help" coming from overseas during a lifetime event such as this, and act according in the future.

Take a look at our current world standing and it isn't difficult at all to understand why no one would want to help us.

Again, the private, local/regional response has been outstanding! Most of these Good Samaritan responders are paying their own way and asking nothing in return except a thank you.

That just proves what's already been said. People come together during times of disaster and help each other, no matter what. We donated money, since that's about we can do from here in Az.

50¢ and our world standing any time used to be able to buy a cup of coffee. Whirled standing is over-rated.

Truly, Lyn, you are out standing in your field. I used to have a field and was out standing in it most of the time, but now I am just a jack of whatever trade my boss says I am at the moment. Seems I lost some standing in the last eight years.

Our production office clerk is accepting donated items (supplies) to take to Austin with her this weekend to help with refugee shelters. I will be donating to the Red Cross, and perhaps Samaritan's Purse as is my custom.

United States Has Yet to Accept Mexican Offer of Harvey Aid

Imminent Changes Introduced to Texas Insurance Law in the Midst of Harvey?

Federal assistance laws are changing for the worse, too. It a sad state of affairs.

Do you seriously think we need help from Mexico? I also have in the back of my mind the hidden attached strings to any such help. Sorry, but my trust level is fairly low with all due respect to the Mexican government.

I at least partially take back what I said about help from Mexico. Maybe they could accept a few train loads of cotton-mouth snakes (water moccasins), along with some of the croco-gators and alli-diles from Houston area. Those hybrid crocodilians are extremely vicious, with mouths at both ends, two sets of front legs, and a nasty disposition from having "no place to go". They are extremely hard to catch since they can bite you on any approach. Some Florida ones have been spotted wearing a top hat, bow-tie, with a big fat stogie lit up hanging out of one or both mouths, again - "all dressed up with no place to go".

We already have plenty tacos, enchiladas, rellenos, and burritos in Texas. Maybe a nice selection of sombreros would actually be helpful in the weeks ahead, and some rain panchos. Everything else including any extra needed dirt in Houston we can get in Texas, and bring there in massive amounts.

We already have plenty tacos, enchiladas, rellenos, and burritos in Texas.

Some of that list is as American as apple pie? and pizza.

Yes, mostly what we call "Mexican" food here in the U.S.A. is more like "Tex-Mex".

Take fajitas for example: purely a Texas invention.

Good food, nevertheless. Real Mexican food in Mexico is not all that much like "Tex-Mex", although some similarities exist through recipes handed down from Grandmothers (and Grandfathers) to present day Texans.

We will hold off on major requests for aid in the form of tequila until the Big Party, after we rebuild. You all can have the worm.

Federal assistance laws are changing for the worse, too.

As opposed to what,... Federal assistance laws that applied to Katrina?... Not enough information.

sometimes laws that are there are not adhered to or its just a pile of overburden bureaucracy of red tape making them impotent.

Please, all of us here, need to keep this light, and as apolitical as we can.

I decided to merely quip back light-heartedly, clearly not important at all while we have so many Texans trying to get both feet on dry land.

No good will come out of ignoring issues either.

I'm dealing with a director that doesn't care deal with issues and the results are not only it draws everyone as well as the business down, it ends up added tremendous costs and delays to everything surrounding it.

I just PMed James with that information, as while it is relevant it will do no good to rehash it here.

Thanks for the insurance info. It was well documented, giving both sides. Frivolous claims cause higher rates. After Wilma hit the Keys, people were tossing out wrought iron furniture and glass tables. I was unaware that iron and glass were affected by salt water. Nothing that Rust Oleum can't fix. Delayed payments should be 20% compounded daily, plus any late CC fees, or over the limit charges.

That might be because of some of the rest of the world is in much worse shape.

I would venture that most on this forum didn't know this, since nobody else mentioned it.

Our smaller flood might not be making the news there, all things considered.

makes one really appreciate living in this country.

They will realize it when the economic bubble bursts again. The majority of the tens of thousands who had houses destroyed do not have flood insurance. This is in Texas and most houses are single story with the garage serving as the attic. Everything owned is in the flood area and destroyed. All those with mortgages to pay will most likely default on the banks. Remember 2008? Our banks get seriously hurt and the whole world, except maybe third world nations, feel it.

there was more to the Bank failures back in 2008 but in essence, yes it was because borrowers couldn't pay back the loans ^{they never should have received in the first place.}

Yeah - but now we have folks who should have received a loan, but still won't pay back. Would you pay for a house that is gone?

Ever check the price of flood insurance? I lived in an area that never flooded in the flood of 1972 (Agnes), which was a 10000 year storm, and was required by the bank to carry flood insurance. I'm surprised that the Houston area banks allowed so many to go without flood insurance.

Yeah - but now we have folks who should have received a loan, but still won't pay back. Would you pay for a house that is gone?

Ever check the price of flood insurance?

That's complicated... I know this is different because of this storm 100 (or maybe 500) year storm... But in other places where houses are built where the view is beautiful, but where the risk is high... Flood Insurance should reflect that to the home owner that builds on premium but higher risk locations.

How the insurance fix the premium also should look at the occurrence,... I thought that's what actuaries do... they probably do, in the insurance company's favor.

When I lived in Virginia Beach, the city (via FEMA) changed the flood plains by just ...ever...so...much in 2009. After that the requirements for flood insurance were done away with. The price for flood insurance went up, and was unattainable for rental properties in that area.

It was kind of comical when the flood plain maps were published. Each house in my neighborhood was in a "safe" area. But just outside of most houses' footprint was where the floodplain started.

The area got pushed back even further in 2015. I would imagine now that most people wouldn't get flood insurance because it isn't required by the federal or municipal authorities, nor the lenders.

It's kind of comical the way the system works. In the ten years I lived in this neighborhood we had over a foot of water in the streets on at least four occasions. I watched an osprey pull a bass out of the street in front of my house when I was driving home from work during one of the flooding events (lifted Bronco don't care).

When I lived in Virginia Beach, the city (via FEMA) changed the flood plains by just ...ever...so...much in 2009.

So,.. you're saying another Government ___FILL IN THE BLANK______ (program, Department, Law) that is totally useless.

There should be a law against that.

Yeah, have you checked the price of flood insurance? I remembered A few days ago, my sister who is living in Los Angeles, faced the similar situation , and thus caught in the flood/water damage in her home. All the costly things in her house got damaged due to the occurrence of flood. Thus to cover up the damage she contacted to her insurance company, agent, but they were asking for the proof, so to handle the situation she contacted to the best public adjusters from the website, who have looked over the problem and managed properly.

If you want a few minutes of good reading Google up Cajun Navy. These people put the "GOOD" in Good Old Boys.

I was just going to bring that up about the Cajun navy...

I did hear that the government wants to stop them, I didn't read the reason behind it. The quality of the media really sucks.

Anyways, I hope relief is better organized than in the past.

Cajun Navy = great old boys! I heard some looters tried shooting at them, to attempt and steal their boat. I suspect that could have been their "last" mistake.

Notice to Looters: Here in Texas we citizens have firearms, and we know how and when and where to use them! This is your only warning.

Why thanks for posting that Lyn. You are 100% right that the folks down this way are all pulling together in one direction - and we don't care about what "group" they belong to - at least not if they are not a food group. LOL

Wild hogs are a good group, so are armadillos, and alligators are a totally separate food group. Cotton mouth snakes, not a food group, not good eating.

"Budweiser brewery sends drinking water to Hurricane Harvey victims ..."

In before the obligatory, "So they're sending them their beer?? Hehehe" joke.

Thanks for making this post Lyn. We need to help each other out. Looks like IEEE is helping, too!

Not everyone in Texas drinks beer. Not all of the ones that do drink beer drink such as Budweiser. There is always Shiner (I prefer the Bock). Lone Star is OK in a pinch (dying of thirst). Then last weekend was the craft beer festival at the Fair Grounds, what a hoot that was. I imagine though, right now in Houston, they are not picky. I thought there was a Bud brewery in Houston?

It's about helping people get safe drinking water, not drinking beer.

Bill Bradley, Anheuser-Busch's VP of Community Affairs, told TODAY "The Cartersville location is our designated brewery for the emergency water program. This location typically shuts down beer production twice per year to produce cans of emergency drinking water, but they will increase production if it's needed."

Right. I was merely attempting to remain light-hearted about all this.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3703369/budweiser-brewery-fills-beer-cans-with-water-to-help-hurricane-harvey-victims/

Disasters bring out the best and worst of humanity, the helpers and the looters & scammers.

Hello, hope that you are all as well as can be expected.

Stay safe and keep up the good spirits.

Yes, we have heard about the Hurricane, with media coverage and such. Impression is this has been better handled than Katrina, even though it seems to have been a "larger" event.

The impression though is that the public are the primary support. There seems little coverage showing "National Guard" or "Army Corp Of Engineers" being involved.

Seems though that your country probably has the infrastructure to pull through this better than those affected by flooding in Bangladesh that is also happening at this time.

How big would a pump need to be to send that water to Florida and what size pipe would I need? From a thread a while ago.

Actually Wisconsin National Guard was informed to be prepared to leave.

Kohler and Generac employees here in Wisconsin are going balls to the walls to produce needed generators.

Remember, just because you don't hear about it, is not the reason they are assisting.

Good on you boys in Wisconsin. The main reason you are helping is that you need football players from Texas. (just kidding). A lot of good hearts reside in Wisconsin.

The main reason you are helping is that you need football players from Texas. (just kidding).

lol..... JJ Watt, Houston Texan defense, is a Wisconsin Badger, born in Milwaukee. He's there too helping out also.

yep,.. in it together.

Man, you knew I was just heaving a big yank on your chain, right?

of course I did,... everyone knows Texans take their football seriously... especially at the high school level

About pumping the water, I would think it better to send the water to Mexico to irrigate the fresh fruit and vegetable we Americans will be eating about a month from now.

The Choctaw tribe named the seasons of the year as two seasons one related to near starvation, and the other related to the various months named for the predominant harvest during this month. For example, August, is Blackberry harvest month. Smart people, those Choctaw, I am considering being adopted into the tribe, as I believe my father was.

I would rather Bud send the beer.

As I live in Baytown Tx. it was horrible. Near flooded my RV. All I lost was my car cover. The worst part was the endless rain and wind.

We are heartened that you weathered Harvey as well as you have. Happy recovery, if you need help, let us know. I realize Baytown is right in the thick of refinery row, and chemical row. Make sure you stay safe, alright?

We sent some firemen, some sewage treatment workers, some police, some deputies down your way. Make sure they stay in good stead, since they are not used to your kind of humidity. I expect they will bring the Budwater, not the Budweiser.

I realize Baytown is right in the thick of refinery row, and chemical row.

Thanks for the effort. It was a massive effort from all parts of the US. I , myself, was in some of the flooded streets in my kayak looking for stranded people.

The surprising thing was the effort and care of everyone in Texas and other people from around the USA to help. It was heartwarming and showed the ability of people to give of themselves without asking for a profit.

There is hope for humanity.

Our little company is going out to evaluate structural damage on bridge and building pro bono.

As far as chemical/ processing there will be a charge (have to support a young Asian GF) but is normal rates.

We have to get operations back to normal.

I wish to thank everyone from USA and especially Texas for your support.

We ain't done yet, brother.