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MIL SPEC for Cable Labeling

11/15/2017 2:51 PM

Anyone know the MIL SPEC that states that there be a "P number" label on each end of a cable and a "W number" in the middle of the cable. We are trying to find the specification. This is one of those "everyone knows that is the way it is done" items but we can't find the spec to back it up.

We don't think that 130 contains the "P on the ends and W in the middle" information.

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11/15/2017 6:17 PM

ASME Y14.44-2008

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11/15/2017 6:23 PM

Just in case if you were wondering if this was the "MIL-SPEC" . . .

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11/17/2017 6:58 AM

This looks like exactly what we were looking for. I have to clean up a mess made by another company and it is rather awkward to just say "everybody knows that it should be done this way".

I'll not list them but you would be very surprised at the "big name" offices (3) that could not come up with this answer.

MIL-STD-130 covers labeling but after a quick scan I didn't see the part of "P" labels on both ends and "W" label in the middle.

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11/17/2017 10:47 AM

You are most welcome. I'm happy to know this was helpful.

I probably work for one of those "big name" offices, but I've been living and breathing this stuff for the last 21 years. Chances are those you've been talking to haven't been down in the trenches with requirements analysis, configuration management, drawings & documentation, and manufacturing engineering. I'm a hardware design engineer, but I also have to satisfy all that "other stuff" too since I work at a small campus of a "big name" company.

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11/15/2017 6:50 PM

This is why toilets and hammers cost $600.

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11/15/2017 7:09 PM

Toilet seats that is.

Actually, having been working for a defense contractor for the last twenty-one years, the reason the government pays $600 for a hammer is because the government MADE it that expensive.

There are all the requirements for design, testing, qualifications, quarterly program management reviews, Berry Amendment for specialty metals, small and disadvantaged business entities, conflict minerals requirements, and the virtual mountain of paperwork that goes along when you want to conduct business with Uncle Sam.

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11/16/2017 2:18 PM

Does Uncle Sam actually refer back to Samuel (General Sam) McClellan who was the American commander early in the American Revolutionary War, Battles of Lexington and Concord? Also the great-grandfather of Major General George B. McClellan of the Union Army in the War of Northern Aggression?

The name seems to go way back. At least it was not "Uncle Burnside"

Ambrose Burnside, the butcher of Fredericksberg

For some unknown reason I have been on this Civil War kick for several months now.

One of my dearest friends who has passed away was a descendant of Robert E. Lee.

How he got there with a name like Fitzgerald, I will never know.

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11/16/2017 6:07 PM

Nobody is really sure . . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Sam

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11/17/2017 7:06 AM

You also have to pay for a large bunch of overpaid people to travel to lots of meetings to create specification documents that are wrong and procedure documents that make it harder and less safe to get the job done than if they would have left you alone.

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03/05/2025 5:54 AM

There’s a lot more to this that’s not known, especially from people who has never worked in this area.

Having worked in the defense industry in the shipyard 30 years ago, for the US Navy building, every valve and piping had to be labeled with a service tag, that listed valve replacement, next service date, hull number, ect. These tags had to be durable. Each ship hade thousands and thousands of tags.

Where it was jobbed out to outside contractors $$$$… managing the CNC equipment and the yard being intrical part of applying CNC software and equipment with unsanctioned manufacturing practices the shipyard management came to me when they were being audited by the defense department if there was a way to reduce these costs of tags. These tags had their own MIL-SPEC, and imo were very specific for a tag.

These tags had a high priority, 1-5 where 1 was hot and top priority, and 5 was fill in work (do it when you have a chance).

I gave them a number, engineering laughed at my number and was waiting me to fail. As well as people within my department.

turned out the savings was over (6) figures per hull on a 14 hull contract. And the priority dropped from a 1 to a 5.

i received a bonus that not so much bought my first Porsche but made a significant down payment.

basically, when your in the mists of the costs of MIL-SPEC, you understand where the costs go… for the most part.

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11/15/2017 9:44 PM

If the toilets are for the space program, $600 might be a bargain. There's a lot of engineering that goes into toilets for zero gravity.

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11/15/2017 10:56 PM

Can't help with a spec number but I can guarantee the wiring spec you're looking for is no longer maintained by DOD. They've farmed out most everything to ANSI or ASME or a gazillion others, even the FAA, who now charge exorbitant fees for what used to be free.

I'm sooooo glad I'm retired out of that mess.

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