Where do you go when you sleep ?

Those percentages do seem high don't they Kris?

Maybe the study was naturally conducted on people who were staying short term and therefore feeling a bit insecure by not being in their own beds??

I don't think I've ever sleep walked, but there again how would I know if I have if nobody told me?

It sounds a bit alarming though, opening the curtains emmmmm... I sleep in the almost nude so I'm sure someone would have noticed me may be they don't want to embarrass me by saying anything?

John.

The bit that made me giggle was that a large % of Travelodge customers are people like sales reps and people on a wild weekend. They also report a high incidence of male sleepwalkers, who happen to do so in the nude. Well I guess a crappy motel room leaves few options for a late night other than getting pissed. Boiling the in-room kettle and watching TV has it's limits for amusement. I shouldn't make fun too much, they ain't as bad as some places. I suspect their survey was slightly tongue in cheek. Heck, they wouldn't want to upset potential clients. Having said that, have you ever had that odd moment went waking when away from home: The micro-second that seems to last longer, when your brain is confused by unfamiliar surroundings. I suspect that people 'walk out' dreams in much the same way as they mentally dream stuff. Most of my dreams seem to incorporate stuff that has happened the preceding day. Freud would probably lay a pork chop if he analyzed me, but what the hey - other people out there must have dreams. I'm just curious as to what folk would admit to. Confession is good for the soul people ! <LOL>. Well somebody must have input here about why we dream what we do,and why only some folk sleepwalk. Psychological or Physiological ? I could have added lots of technical links but I thought it would be more interesting to leave it open.

Oh hell yes Kris, i'm sure we've all had that moment when the time stands still as we get are bearings... I know I have, especially if I've had a drink lunch time and had a lie down in the afternoon and then woke up as it was getting dark thinking it was the next day and I'd been asleep all night..... strange...

Don't they say that dreams are a way for the brain to sort out the last days events or something?

I have again become interested in this topic, as my doctor put me on some tablets which have caused restless nights together with vivid dreams, so I've been waking up thinking what on earth was that about...!!

John.

LOL. Now you see the reason for my curiosity John ! Heck, this question is multi-versatile. As if to say " where have you been this weekend, was it good ,and why did you go there". Oddly, few have had the nerve to say so.

I wish it were only once. Oi vay. Wetting the father-in-laws cedar chest with him shouting me to my senses. Yeah, we laaauuughhed and laughed about that one. Whew. good times. Hard to figure why he never really approved.......

cr3

Sleep meds give almost everyone vivid dreams. At least for all the everyones that I've ever talked to about it. What was the med? Was it Ambien?

I sometimes take valerian root to help me sleep when I'm suffering from insomnia. It works fairly well. But a double or triple dose can cause very vivid and weird (scary) audio and visual hallucinations within the dream state. A normal dose usually causes little apparent effect, maybe making dreams slightly more vivid. I've never tried taking a large dose during waking hours (probably unwise to experiment on one's brain chemistry just for kicks).

....hours (probably unwise to experiment on one's brain chemistry just for kicks).

Boy I'll say. The restoration process is a real drag!

I've taken a number of natural ("homeopathic") sleep medications, including melatonin, with the same results: I fall asleep easily enough but pay for it with "busy" dreams. Among the pharmaceutical drugs, Clonopin (aka Clonazepan) is probably the best one I've tried so far. The downside of Clonopin is that it takes so long to wear off, meaning I'm groggy for several hours after waking up from a full night's sleep. Because of this I generally take half rather than the full dose prescribed.

(btw, I write all my CR4 posts in this twilight state-of-mind so that I can't be held accountable!)

I banged myself in the accountables once. It didn't half hurt !

Kinky. The kind you don't take home to mother.

Interesting..... Ambien seems to be a hypnotic drug with some alarming side effects!!

Anyway, I'm safe for the moment as my car is without a battery so I can't go driving off somewhere sleep-driving(?).

I don't know what the generic name is for them, I didn't read all the article, but my ones are called Citalopram and are basically anti-depressants, but my doctor isn't prescribing them for depression he's prescribed them because of their side effects!!!!

No wonder they call doctors GP's General Practitioners, I wonder what they call them once they've finished practicing? LOL

John.

Electroman admits: "I sleep in the almost nude so I'm sure someone would have noticed me may be they don't want to embarrass me by saying anything?"

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Boy are you in for a shock!

Lots of folks have noticed. If you really must know, you're the guy who:

First gets dressed in Belfast. How you get there without being arrested in the semi-nude is anyone's guess, but it's in all the papers (just check out a few back-issues of Viz). Maybe they just don't have the heart to bust a guy in a Speedo banana hammock.

Then you let a car and drive to Newcastle to eat; always at the same diner. You seem to prefer a light breakfast of bagels topped with raspberry cream cheese.

You then hitchhike to Coventry, where you rent a room whose curtains you immediately open. But as you're already clothed, no one takes a particular interest with the possible exception of the hookers at the curb. After a few minutes, you leave, and

Take a train to Edinburgh for a nightcap, then

Head back to Dunstable, where you disrobe (mostly) and sleep off the drinks.

You're quite a celebrity here. And no one's told you?

And don't forget the incident at the ferry.

Gramps !! You won't like it , honest. Trying to say it was just 'road-kill' is no excuse. Explain it to the little ones gathering behind you !

HAHAHAHA!!!

Blimey! so that's why I always wake up so tired!!

As for the ferry, I'm still trying to think of a alibi for that one

John.

I know I sleep walked as an adolescent, apparently one time I walked up the garden over a little bridge over the pond and then came back. My big Sis saw me... (dunno if I had pyjamas on ) Havn't done it as an adult.

Oh, that's sweet Del. ER would be going all duey eyed if she read that. I must admit my stiff upper lip is qui quiv er quivering. It's lovely. My (1) older sis used to look out for me. The 6 other younger siblings new better of course.

Many people seem to go through a phase of sleep-walking, often during adolescence. I guess it's all those raging hormones or something. The curious bit of the recent reporting is that it seems to indicate an increase amongst adults. Perhaps this in some way reflects upon people living more stress filled lives. I'm glad you had a big sis to watch over, but doing something cool like building a model aeroplane in your sleep would have been really impressive. All I ever managed to do was wake up in the morning and think 'Oh crap, the alarm is going off'.. Even sadder was thinking "who's alarm is that".

When I was a young man traveling service rep in a motel one nite, I woke and went to the soda machine in the courtyard and there was a young lady in her baby-doll PJ's, maybe I wasn't dreaming, don't know if she was.

I read that article which caught my eye only because I used to travel a lot as a field engineer and used all sorts of hideouts for the night time.

They said it was stress causing it and that would explain why it is on the rise of course. I can't say that I ever sleep walked but then again you would need somebody to tell you if you did.

My dads sister used to, she would wake up as a kid, walk to the top of the stairs and sit down. she would alledgedly be there for as long as a few hours before going back, very strange. The family knew and someone would sit with her to make sure, they never woke her up after one evening they tried and she got all violent. Better to let them be I think.

Hey Kris, I hope you don't escape through the attic window in your sleep, that would be interesting

The bit about your Sis jogged my memory. It's (supposedly) recommended not to wake a sleep-walker, because statistically they are likely to thump you one because of the shock of being woken.

Another motel survey recently revealed some of the odd things people do in their rooms. Kettles, for instance, have been used to boil eggs and even make a Curry. The same article I read mentioned a trouser press being used to re-heat Pizza ! I have a sneaking admiration for that ingenuity.

The attic window is currently boarded over, but once I get out of the nice white smock they gave me.....

When that happens, I will call you Houdini!

I actually saw someone use an electric kettle for boiling an egg and god what a mess it made. It was a new company kettle and the guy did not know. Obviously nobody else was donna say anything.

He had to clean the thing as the boss walked in when it all went pear shaped, very funny.

At university I've boiled an egg in the kettle...

It takes a bit of skill in turning it off before it boils too vigorously and timing it is a sod...

I've only had one broken egg in the kettle but that did make an awful mess, i had to remove the elment to clean it and for weeks the tea didn't taste quite the same...

John.

you know those things for boiling an egg in the microwave, could we not invent something like that for domestic kettles?

must be possible not? What do you think breaks the egg, I think it is the boiling action that sloshes the egg against the element.

So if we make a protective package that holds the egg but still allows the water to go around it you can hang it in the kettle and boil it without the egg being thrown about.!

Must be millions in it, where is that delete button before you read this... shit that is the wrong button oh oh.

..Ah ha..It sounds like another wizard item for the KrisDel^TM Virtual Products Christmas Catalogue. Will you accept a small royalty or will a few shares do...

PS. You need to come up with a catchy name for it.

Del

What, me do all the work and get only a SMALL royalty? That is steep and on top of that I have to also come up with a catchy name.

Come up with something better and I might just show you the initial plans and drawings.

I like the idea here Del, but there is a problem. If it was one of those kettles without a visibly coiled heating element, someone might just say it was a saucepan or something. The boiling egg application could be sorted by means of some chicken wire, though I'm warming to the idea of a scrambled-egg maker. By means of some sort of internal divider, eager buyers could make a cuppa at the same time. Tea bag in one partition and egg in the other. We could re-introduce the Teasmade idea ( No we ain't pinching your idea Goblin- ours is better. Anyway, I ordered one of yours once and it wasn't what I expected. Never worked on time)

By means of some sort of internal divider, eager buyers could make a cuppa at the same time. Tea bag in one partition and egg in the other

I do not understand that part, why do you put your teabag in any compartment at all? You just boil water and put water in mug or pot. With OUR idea, you now just hang a protected egg in with the water.

Hey Del, he may not be pinching goblin's idea but he is pinching ours. You hold him while I call him names!

Hey that's underhanded - what do you mean 'Ours'. I know someone here clued up on patent laws. My suits will contact your suits ! You could put coffee or cup-a-soup in the second partition. No name exist for this one yet, bit I think Breckymatic ^TM may cover it. I haven't figured where the waffles could go yet, but that's minor detail. Anyway, a porridge compartment might be a healthier option. The alarm goes,and ready waiting is a nice cup of tea, porridge, and some eggs.

"Take this as serious or lightly as you wish, and post in your sleep if you desire. It's currently 2PM here, so I'm wide awake. The clocks also go back 1 hour tonight so I have extra time to post this odd question. A corresponding deduction will be made in Spring"

Some politicians suffering from non compis mentis had the dim witted thought, or lack there of, to delay implementation of the time change for two weeks this year.

I always sleep in the bed whenever possible. Had to stay overnight in hospital. Hospital beds jack-Knife and are impossible to sleep on side in. Awake all night, watched tv till channel started repeating the program and changed channels, all night. Nurses in and out taking data and doing what they had orders for. No rest for the weary!

Yeh... in hospital there is usually the compulsory 'mad groaner' who keeps everyone awake !

on top of the 24 hour visiting policies they seem to have now.

Well, there was that one time I woke up in a Texas pecan grove with a 4-10 shotgun....but that was back in my whiskey drinkin' days.

cr3

How does Travelodge know where, how much, and what? Has anyone wondered?

You've got surveillance cameras everywhere else in the UK. Please don't tell me they're also monitoring hotel rooms!

I'm not sure of their excuse, but they keep towels behind reception desk, 'just in case'. Years ago I keeled over drunk in Newcastle (about 1 am I think) after a boisterous night out. My good mates nicked all my clothes and ran off, leaving me with just steel capped boots and a short jacket to get home in. NOTHING else. It was Winter so there wasn't much to see anyway, but getting out of a major town in such a predicament was no small feat. The guys on security at the student halls of residence sympathetically just fell on the floor laughing when I got there 2 hours later.

what if we told you they are monitoring? you worried now?

what have you got to hide that we have not discussed here already?

Not worried. Say, can you hang on a bit? I'm busy with the other paparazzi...

Where do I go in my sleep? Nowhere as far as I'm aware.

But I know where to light goes to when I open the switch.

While at university, I had a roommate who sleepwalked. One night when he went to bed particularly early he began his sleepwalking while I was still awake watching TV. At the time I didn't know about his habit, so when he walked into the living room I attempted to speak to him. After at first he ignored me, I noticed he had a strange vacant look on his face, but with eyes wide open. He stared out the window into the darkness. I asked what was wrong. He replied in a very serious voice "they're coming". I asked "who?" and he replied very impatiently "them!". He then turned around and went back to bed. The next day I asked him about this strange incident and he explained that since childhood he has had "night-terrors" -- very bad nightmares accompanied by thrashing, screaming, and sleepwalking. His recent episodes had been triggered by reading H.P. Lovecraft horror novels (why would anyone prone to nightmares want to read horror stories?!)

Svengali, I don't know whether to take that serious or not ? It sounds very plausible, and seems to address a serious point, but how do I know it's a bona-fide point. I'm not having a swipe beause of previous chat, but how can I know ? There is an obvious answer which I see, but come on man - serious comment or not ? Did you room-mate sleep walk and truly do that ?

I am completely serious. "Night-terrors" are a well known-known phenomena. A quick Google search confirms this, e.g.,

http://www.nightterrors.org

You seem to doubt my sincerity because of something I wrote in a previous post? Which post would that be?

Now THAT is fabulous!!!

PMSL!!!

Bob B. (Bobby?), you're an inspiration to us all!!

My 2 year old experiences night terrors. It is most disturbing, particularly with a young child.

That phrase 'night terrors' seems to get used a lot. Is it describing something dissimilar to the more usual 'nightmare' type phrase ? I'm not taking the **** here, just interested to know the difference (if there is one). People do some strange things while asleep. Psychologists also seem to take interest in what position people lie in. ie face up /face down etc. I initially go to sleep face-down (a psychiatrist would probably say 'hiding from the world' or something) but wake up on my side. I've often got up in the middle off the night to have a pee, but nothing like sleep-walking as I've heard it described ,so this is a bit beyond my knowledge. Are there any useful techniques that can be applied when your daughter has these night terror episodes ? Have you any thought's on if it's just simply 'one of those things' and she'll hopefully grow through it, or is it diet related etc ? This thread was started with slightly frivolous intent, but it would be interesting to hear more serious contributions if people feel willing to share their own experience.

I found this writeup on Wiki. I've experienced night terrors three times, myself. They're pretty bad and much worse than nightmares as such. You're half awake, you know you are, and yet the damn thing persists. It's been a long time now since my last one, but it's not something you easily forget.

Poor little un.... (hope Halloween isn't bad for him)

I used to run v high temperatures when I was ill as a kid and would get delerious. Eventually as I was growing out of it I was able to enjoy the experience...but to this day a pair of Paisley Curtains can still freak me out, those squiggles would start crawling about. Hmm maybe that's why I would never try LSD !

I agree about Paisley. yuck. It's a bit like those squiggly things that float across you field of vision when tired. A bit like small grey snakes or something. The medical term alludes me, but I wonder if it inspired the Paisley pattern. Nah, that was probably creme-de-menthe or absinthe.

Those squigglies are strands of protein and other bits of crud that float around in your aqueous humor just in front of the retina. You're seeing their shadows. One of the best ways to seem 'em is to lay on your back and stare into a blank blue sky. Del may wish to tie a few on first before he tries this.

...float around in your aqueous humor just in front...

I see nothing funny about water or liquids.

Funny my eye, you say?

Where do you go? Here, looks like!

"The accident happened during a holiday with friends and family in Malaga last month. Dale, from Stanley, County Durham, recalled: "We'd been out for a couple of drinks and then gone to bed. My cousin said I just got up in the night and walked off the balcony."

Flippin' heck, he was probably looking for the toilet and then all of a sudden.........!

Okay, time to fess up.

When I was eleven years old I did one of those sleepwalking things where you get up and believe you are going to the bathroom. I took all the requisite steps except for finding my way to an actual bathroom.

We lived in a large two-storey house having two stairways to the second floor. When you reached the top of the rear stairway you could do a 180 and walk to the rear of the stairwell where you could see people come up the stairs from behind. In my trance, that was the "bathroom."

Mom had just finished giving herself a perm, and her hair was all wound up in those nasty little curler thingies that always smelled like acetic acid. Just as she reached the midpoint of her ascent, I let go and drenched her freshly-permed hair with all the exuberance of an eleven-year-old who'd had too much soda-pop the night before.

She was, may I say? Pissed?

People do this stuff on stairwells ? It must get real slippery.

I had a mate once who got banned from sleeping over at another mates house after the pub! When ever he got drunk he would fall asleep on the sofa! later in the night he would stand up and go through some strange ritual of opening imaginary doors and peeing in imaginary toilets! The problem was that he was actually peeing behind the TV set (V. Dangerous). We worked out that the ritual was actually following the floor plan of his own house! This carried on in plain view of anybody in the room! The trick was to wake him at the appropriate moment! Normally he got very angry but with the family jewels in his hand, there was not much he could do! (STEVE, IF YOU ARE ON THIS SITE, SORRY BUT IT IS FOR THE GOOD OF ALL MANKIND!!!)

Pure genius Mr TB ! You're probably only annoyed because he wrecked all those plants in the tin-foil lined wardrobe. Never did find out who cracked the lava lamp either, and as to the *****'s who created 'punch' in the kitchen sink one night. Words are not enough. A couple of Lemon slices was kidding nobody. The hangover lasted a bloody week !