Possible Treatment For Corona Virus

If the vaccine is made available, who would want to be first vaccinated? I don't.

In the general struggle against this disease, does anyone know if ultra-violet will dis-infect this virus from hard surfaces, plastic covers (e.g. -- library book covers), etc? The reason I ask is that even though many libraries are closed many others are trying to find a way to continue their lending services and returned books need to be (at least) externally sterilized for handling purposes before going into a (3?) day quarantine. Reading for research and or pleasure must continue, and not everything is "on-line".

Thanks for any response and I hope this isn't too far off topic ��

Yes, apparently covid-19 is sensitive to uv light and heat...

..."BEIJING: According to the latest guideline on the diagnosis and treatment of Covid-19 released by the National Health Commission, the virus is sensitive to ultraviolet (UV) light and heat, so UV radiation can effectively eliminate the virus.

According to the guideline, indoor spaces should be disinfected with UV light with an intensity of over 1.5 watts per square metre.

A UV lamp can disinfect objects within one metre for at least half an hour.

Longer exposure to radiation is needed when the temperature indoors is below 20°C or above 40°C and relative humidity is over 60%.

A room should be ventilated after UV disinfection, and people are suggested to enter the room half an hour later. — China Daily/ANN"...

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/03/05/virus-sensitive-to-uv-light-and-heat

Thank you.

This man predicted the current pandemic 15 years ago...

https://futurism.com/neoscope/doctor-who-predicted-coronavirus-pandemic-larry-brilliant?mc_cid=0ab5dc4f33&utm_term=0_03cd0a26cd-0ab5dc4f33-250511531&utm_medium=email&mc_eid=039b91f03d&utm_source=The%20Future%20Is&utm_campaign=0ab5dc4f33-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_03_20_06_16

When this pandemic passes,it will return again year after year,slightly modified and evolved to elude our immune system.It is here to stay.

We need to make long term plans as well as the short term actions in effect now.

This virus may nibble away at the world's population every year,getting stronger each year.

This may be nature's way of cleaning up the planet.

Look at how much the atmosphere has cleared in just a short time.

The trigger wires are the Amazonian and other primal forests,as we go deeper and deeper into uncharted ground where no man has gone before,we will release diseases that we have never encountered before.

We may encounter a virus that makes us all sterile from an early age,and will not manifests itself until puberty,when no one can reproduce,and it will be too late.

SARS-COV-2 may have been dormant among us for a long time.

Community cases are springing up with no known connection to infected persons.

Where did it come from to infect these isolated cases?

To paraphrase T.S. Elliot:(The Hollow Men)

"This is the way the world ends,

"This is the way the world ends,

not with a bang,"

[not with a whimper,

but with a dry cough

and a high temperature.]

Text in brackets is added by me.

Not only the air clearing in China, but also the waters in Venice

There will always be a way to over come any pathogen. Man can think and then evolve, (designing an anti-virus is a form of evolution), and overcome.

A sterilizer virus... we clone.

Will we end viruses? maybe, why not?

I have a positive outlook on life, not a negative one.

We will overcome this, learn from it and be better positioned for the next one.

Its those pesky asteroids that will get ya when your not looking :)

All the corona viruses seem to be traced to bats....sars, mers, covid 19, all mutated and infected an intermediary animal before again mutating and infecting humans...

Kill all bats! ....they are responsible for causing the collapse of insect populations anyway...haha

Bats are Evil....

http://www.gamesfreak.net/games/Bat-Country_4015.html

The community acquired cases have no connection to any other infection vectors.

They seem to spring up independently of any known outside causes.

Maybe the insects that the bats ate are what infected the bats.

Populated areas have lots of lights which attract lots of flying insects,which attract bats.

Maybe the bat poo carries the virus also.I am sure they are like birds,and poop while in flight.

We may be looking at the wrong root cause of this.

So, could moths,gnats,flies be a carrier,using the bats as a vector to humans?

I remember a movie where a doctor had found a miraculous cure for cancer in the Amazonian forest that was derived from a flower that grew only in the canopy in a certain area.The area was scheduled to be logged soon,and he was working against the clock to isolate the active component from the flower.

The local witch doctor was watching him do his work with the microscope and Petri dishes,and called him a foolish man.

The clock ran out before he could isolate the cure,and the forest was destroyed.

The witch doctor once again called him a foolish man.

He finally asked him why he thought he was foolish.

The witch doctor said it was the ANTS that pollinated the flowers,not the flowers that held the cure.

The same may be true with the bats,I think.

Like us,they are what they eat.

Before we all consider flipping the "off" switch, as in the very poorly written movie "On The beach", consider that man has been in this position many many times before. Whether bacterial or viral all diseases follow a set pattern to survive. All diseases weaken with each iteration of a specific pandemic until they becomes at worst a severe inconvenience. Then, as with SARS, personal hygiene and effective vaccination causes the pathogen to fade away.

Look at the statistics, Corvid-19 kills mainly those poorly nourished, immune compromised and/or elderly, with very few deaths under 30 and rarely children. Many had such mild symptoms that they didn't even know they were infected. And that is actually the reason Corvid -19 has spread so far and so fast. At this time the imposed quarantine (whether you agree with Trump or not) was probably the most effective way to slow the spread Corvid-19.

In the long run the best possible way to defeat Corvid-19, besides personal and public hygiene, is changing our life style specifically our eating habits. so much food we eat is of such poor quality that we are actually under nourished. Especially if we are fast food addicts, as most middle management workers are. Until a safe and effective vaccine is developed each person needs to be responsible for their own health.

That may be easier than expected. While I don't quite believe it, Russia claims they have no new cases, China claims that they have passed the curve and are reopening factories. Hospitals in Shanghai may have shown us the answer, they report that they are using massive doses of intravenous Vitamin C and that treatment has shortened recovery time by 44% and and most amazing of all they have had no fatalities since starting this method of treatment. An Israeli (and an american) firm report that they have developed new vaccines and both are in the first stages of human trials. When all is said and done I think that we will see that Corvid-19 will be no more deadly than the seasonal flu which world wide yearly kills over 120,000. Yes, new pathogens spring up all the time, It is impossible to eliminate all bacteria and we could not survive if we did. Nature has given us a very efficient and adaptive immune system that protects us from infections, we just have to give it a little help.

While I am no health care professional and make no claims as to any substances curative value, but I have learned that proper nutrition is a necessity. A necessity we Americans neglect far too often. Some times only a single nutrient can make the difference, I have been told by nutritional researchers that I highly respect (and the claims of the Shanghai Doctors seem to verify) that "any viral or bacterial pathogen can be stopped with large dosses of Vitamin C ". They suggest, as an early treatment, that when you start feeling ill take 1000Mg vitamin C by mouth every two hours. They suggest that that should be sufficient to stop most viruses. Whether you are willing to try that is up to you but it works for me.

Corvid-19 is not the problem, fear and panic are.

"Corvid" refers to crows, ravens, magpies, etc.

The present disease is Covid or COVID.

This is probably an error from whatever spell-checker you may be using.

I don't see any links to any studies...?

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/09/coronavirus-its-time-to-debunk-claims-that-vitamin-c-could-cure-it/

I may have missed it, but does your original source have any double-blind studies?

Intriguing, yes, but is anybody really there yet?

That said, a gin-and-tonic can't be too bad, whatever else happens. Bottoms up!

Here is the link describing the present Vitamin C clinical trial, based on results of treatment trial in Wuhan. The results of this clinical trial are not expected until September.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04264533

No efficacy mentioned...so none proved....case closed

I wrote, "The results of this clinical trial are not expected until September." I haven't heard of any product including a drug proving effectiveness in a trial that is finished---it is too soon since the virus strain is new and it takes time to test properly.

All of the drugs that are mentioned I have heard of have many significant negative side effects. Vitamin C is safer. See link at: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898816/ where it says, "Other than the known complications of IV vitamin C in those with renal impairment or glucose 6 phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency, high dose intravenous vitamin C appears to be remarkably safe."

I would like to add the following links concerning the efficacy of using vitamin C to resolve cases of coronavirus:

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/shanghai-government-officially-recommends-vitamin-c-covid-19.2

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n17.shtml

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n18.shtml

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n19.shtml

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n20.shtml

A quote from your link...

...."Vitamin C supports your immune system. Vitamin C helps to kill viruses and reduces the symptoms of infection. It's not a COVID-19 "cure," "....

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n20.shtml

...."The notions behind orthomolecular medicine are not supported by sound medical evidence, and the therapy is not effective;^[6][7] even the validity of calling the orthomolecular approach a form of medicine has been questioned since the 1970s.^[8]

The scientific and medical consensus holds that the broad claims of efficacy advanced by advocates of orthomolecular medicine are not adequately tested as drug therapies. It has been described as a form of food faddism and as quackery.[14] "...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine

Nice informative link.

Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: preliminary results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial

..."Conclusion : Hydroxychloroquine is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in patients with COVID-19 and its effect is reinforced by Azithromycin."...

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.16.20037135v1

The report called for 600 milligram doses and it was earlier stated that the dosage was in the neighborhood of 600 micrograms. That's a difference by a factor of 1000 so I was wondering which dosage is correct because at the milligram dosage, one couldn't drink even close to the required amount of tonic (quinine) water to be effective even for preventive (Prophylactic?) purposes, let alone curative purposes.

What think you, SE?

TBC

These drugs are similar sounding, but are different...Hydroxychloroquine seems to be much less toxic than chloroquinine but less active, and quinine is an unknown player but is reported to be intercellular as well...and having the disease vs having some immunity is a different requirement altogether...So my position is that a zinc daily supplement with some tonic water daily can't hurt...but if you test positive for the covid 19 virus, I would go with the hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin at the recommended dosage....

I went to bed last night really down in the dumps about this Corona virus and awoke this morning unable to get the old song "Ring Around the Rosey" out of my mind. Really depressing!

Then, I read this from you and it brightened my outlook for the whole day!

Thank you for starting and maintaining this thread, even in the face of those who just had to bring their deranged political problems into a discussion where they didn't belong and didn't contribute or even ask a reasonable question.

Again, THANK OU!

TBC

Out of a ‘crisis’ a silver lining.