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Conductor Thefting

01/22/2008 11:36 PM

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What protecive measures can be adopted to stop LT Conductor thefting?

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01/23/2008 1:08 AM

Contact a security agency!! and sleep well....

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01/23/2008 3:14 AM
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01/23/2008 3:30 AM

Keep it energised?

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01/23/2008 10:16 AM

As God is my witness, here in Pittsburgh the crank and crack crews have started stealing energized lines.

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Re: Conductor Thefting

01/23/2008 5:04 AM

Hello Guest,

Run all your service lines at 33kV and upwards.

If you can raise the voltage to 66kV then you may run lines in high tensile galvanized steel (Fencing wire) wire, which nobody will bother to steal.

Have a small transformer at each customer's premises to reduce to satisfactory mains voltages.

That way when you see the dead bodies on the side of the road, you'll know who was trying to steal the conductors.

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01/23/2008 7:56 AM

This is perhaps the best option. The conductor size required will be so small that galvanised iron/steel wires will save on the cost of Copper / Aluminium conductors which attract the thieves. Cost of step down transformers can be factored in.

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01/23/2008 10:19 AM

I'm not sure what an LT conductor is. Some years ago, I worked for a company that put railroad signal systems into eastern Turkey where they had a problem with copper wire theft. We ended up used copper conductors inside a fairly hard steel covering. Expensive.

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01/23/2008 3:28 PM

Hello TVP45

LT = Low Tension.

That normally means Mains Power as used in homes, offices and small factories.

Typically ranging from 110 Volts to 460 Volts, also depending on whether US or UK type of original electric Supply, and single or 3 Phase.

MV = Medium Voltage, normally from 500 Volts through to 3.3kV.

These limits vary a bit, dependent on the supply area/Country.

Hope that helps.

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01/23/2008 8:43 PM

Here in California the police just busted a theft ring, they had 14 tons of copper!

They were also manufacturing bombs and putting them inside toys, so apparently t is not just crackheads doing this...

Copper wire theft; the new terrorist funding source. Maybe now the government will do something about it.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local&id=5909732

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01/23/2008 10:45 PM

Back in the 1950's we never even locked our house when we went out for the day, nor at night either.

The local policeman rode a pushbike around, and knew exactly what was going on in the area of his "patch".

We did have a very cheeky theft about 65 miles from my location, around 20 years ago.

Way back when the Canterbury Provincial Government was putting a railway from Christchurch through the Southern Alps to the West Coast, the line was changed to a different valley in order to save several bridges and tunnels further up the original planned route.

This left some 20 miles of trackway, complete with Australian Hardwood sleepers, rails, poles, signals, and associated several circuits for phones, power, and signals on those poles beside the track, all ready for trains, but now the trains were diverted to the new route.

The line with all the associated services lay there, abandoned for 80 years or so.

Eventually came Corporatisation of the now State-owned Railway System, and some bright young bean-counter discovered the "extra 20 miles of unused line" etc.

He decided to sell it all off, by Tender, and make a name for himself, by showing such "business acumen".

When the out-of-district successful Tenderer arrived with cranes, trucks and several staff to start the recovery of the 20 mile section, so as to sell for scrap the iron rails, copper wire, poles, and sleepers, it was like Mother Hubbard's Cupboard: Bare down to the gravel base for the sleepers.

All that had been tendered for had been uplifted over a few weeks, probably at night, by a set of enterprising thieves.

No person was ever charged, and the unhappy Tenderer was refunded the amount paid for his Tender.

As a further note: Power Distribution Authorities often have "spare" Distribution lines, ready to connect in case of accident in an area, the "spare lines" are run in a different route.

These 'spare lines", being not energised, have been targeted by copper thieves, here in New Zealand, and elsewhere too.

It does seem that in many cases honesty does not concern thieves, they take what they can, regardless of cost to others.

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01/24/2008 9:41 AM

shoot them with a 30-06 and be done with it. You'll save money and society will be better off for it.

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