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Strangest Hunting Method

02/17/2008 2:02 PM

This is really due to Case491, but I'll start it anyway. What's the most unusual method of hunting (or fishing if you like) you've ever seen or used? Include your family members if you like. There are extra points for the most complex technological answer (a servocontrolled '69 Pinto, for example).

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02/21/2008 3:22 PM

Anybody read Danny, the Champion of the World ? They could have used Birdlime, or possibly threaded long horse-hairs with raisins and just hauled the pheasants in.

There's another method I heard of for those partial to seagull. A small stone is hidden inside a bit of bread and chucked skyward for the flying rat. The sudden unexpected increase in mass causes the gull to stall (supposedly).

Here's another pheasant method I pinched ;

"My neighbor told me one way of poaching pheasants. You take a house brick and fill the cavity with corn and then leave it in a field about 100 yards from a hedge. You take a 12 bore shotgun and hide behind the hedge. When the pheasant comes along and starts pecking at the corn you fire the shotgun in the air and the pheasant is so surprised it knocks itself out on the brick." Doh !

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02/21/2008 5:30 PM

Not so strange a method, I guess, but thought I'd share this. Today, one of our crews was clearing and grubbing some brush and trees where we will be installing a settling pond. I got a call on the radio about 1330 that they had a rattlesnake that needed relocating. Off I go with my self-built snake stick, and one of the Safety Dept. guys as assistant. To make a long story short, I took about 5 minutes to locate, snare, and pull out an eastern diamondback rattlesnake (with some of the prettiest camoflage coloration I've ever seen on one) a little over 5 feet long, some 5 inches in diameter for most of that length, easily 15 pounds in weight, and with a head nearly 2 inches across. He had 12 rattles plus a bud, so was a minimum of 13 years of age. The rattles were clearly audible from a distance of 40 feet. We took him across to the far side of the area being cleared, and put him under the chain link fence into an adjacent simarly wooded and brushy area, where he eventually apparently made himself at home.

All in a day's work at MY office. How'd y'all do for grits and shins?

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02/21/2008 5:43 PM

12 rattles does not make a rattler 12 years old. It just means it has shed its skin 12 times. As well fed as you describe this one it could easily have shed multiple times in a year.

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02/22/2008 11:09 AM

Basically true, but not so likely in Florida. This one was well-fed, but not recently, no mid-body bulges, and he was hunkered down in the leaf mast (we've had a cold spell) and rather sluggish at first. Also, they don't always keep all of the rattles when the skin sheds; they can come loose with the skin, or even get broken in between sheddings. It's just a close estimate. It would take more than 3-4 years for any rattlesnake to reach the size this bad boy had got to though.

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02/21/2008 5:47 PM

Nice that we've had a few stories where the critters didn't get blown to smithereens.

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02/22/2008 9:23 PM

As for me I'll stay away from bottom feeders. When I was a boy we lived down river from a neuclear power plant. One of our neighbors (an engineer from France I believe) showed my dad how to prepare carp. I didn't think it was all that good (muddy flavor and all). That was in 1960 and a short time later a grain barge sank right about where the carp was caught. It took a while to begin a salvage operation and by the time they did the Army Corps of Engineers stopped them because the boat had become too hot (radioactive) to raise safely. I wonder if I still glow in the dark!!

On another note; the main reasons that an introduced species will outstrip natives is that 1) the other native flora and fauna have not built up defense mechinisms toward the intruder 2) the intruder, having been introduced into new surroundings, ramps up all its defense and offense mechanisms as a means of surviving it's new habitat. That is at least what I was taught while working with noxious weeds for the rural county I live in.

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02/23/2008 3:35 PM

They taught you right - that's exactly what happens. Especially the part about no natural defense mechanisms - intruders can often outcompete natives due to this. And if they cannot, then they are not around long enough to pose a problem. There are many more species introductions that fail than that succeed, but you just don't hear about the failures. But give the new kid on the block a niche to hang out in, and Katy bar the door! OBTW, which river did you live on?

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02/23/2008 3:51 PM

That's the Columbia River in Washington State. We lived in Richland at the time, gateway community to Hanford neuclear works. My father was an engineer at an aluminum giant which shall remain unnamed at this point. He was let go over a dispute about something he invented in his own time. I guess he didn't read the fine print about not owning his own time.

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02/23/2008 4:17 PM

Sorry to hear about your Dad - it's the IP sh*t again. The theory goes something like "if you invented in while you were employed by us - you may have spent some company time thinking about it - so we own it!"

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02/23/2008 5:05 PM

Back on topic - I think. A story my dad told of his younger days (depression era). It seems he had an old single shot shotgun on which the ejector mechanism was broken. While hunting rabbit (to help feed the family) he was just shooting one when a black bear raised up behind the bush the rabbit was next to and started towards dad. After what seemed like an eternity to dad he pried the spent shell out, inserted another and as he was turning to run fired his gun in the bears direction (hoping to slow the bear down, I think). When he got about a half mile down the road he realized the bear was not behind him. So, gathering his wits (and courage)(and knowing he better not show up at home without that gun) he made his way back to where he had been. To his surprise he found his gun in the open mouth of the bear which was laying right where dad had been with the back of its head blown off. I understand that bear was well recieved at home where it made many a meal and a nice rug to boot.

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02/25/2008 7:06 AM

"...hoping to slow the bear down..."

Glad THAT worked out for him! Whoosh, talk about yer close calls...

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02/25/2008 4:54 PM

My grandpa grew up as the oldest of 5 boys on a farm in Michigan. He had a tremendous storehouse of stories that fascinated us kids and made my mother's hair stand on end!

Grandpa said there was a cash market for skunk pelts and rendered skunk fat - apparently it was used in ointments - so he and his brothers went skunk hunting. Here's how:

Take a flexible willow branch, and split the tip end in two - about a 12-inch split. Put a small peg in the base of the split to hold it open. Tie the two top ends tightly. You now have a flexible stick that ends in slender loop about 12" long. Locate the skunk's den, insert the loop-end of the stick, and stir it around vigorously. (A skunk will not "spray" in its own den, so you're safe so far.) When the loop catches on something, you can assume that it's part of a skunk! Twirl the stick rapidly so that the skunk gets wound around the stick, then yank it out fast and whack the skunk on the head.

Grandpa claimed this worked like a charm. The oldest four hunted all day, leaving the youngest brother to guard the growing heap of skunks. Problem: A few of those skunks were only stunned, not dead. When they came to, they objected strenuously, as only a skunk can! By the time the boys brought their noisome haul back to the farm, their mother wouldn't let them anywhere near the house.

The boys lived in the barn for more than a week, skinning skunks & rendering the fat. They had to buy new clothes and burn the ones they were wearing, so the "net income" was paltry and the adventure was never repeated. But what a grand story for entertaining children!

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02/25/2008 5:04 PM

What a pungent, er, poignant tale - fairly brings a tear to the eye just hearing about it! Not a patch on the tears I'm sure it brought to the eyes of those who lived the tale though. The tale of the tail of a skunk...

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02/26/2008 8:37 AM

Aha...Peppe le' Pew.

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02/26/2008 8:59 AM

Non, m'seiur, le logo pour le Skunk Works de Lockheed! C'est Pepe:

Tres similar!

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02/26/2008 9:32 AM

........................but let's not stay too long!!!!!!

Let's get out of here

...............and fast

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02/26/2008 10:22 AM

Arriba! Arriba! Andelé! Ayayayayayayay! POOF! (vanishes in cloud of...)

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02/26/2008 9:41 PM

...................................or........................quick, hold your breath

..........I'm gonna wash that smell right outa my hair......adios Pepe my friend!!!

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02/26/2008 6:20 PM

Why oh why do I get the feeling your grandpa was pulling your legs a bit.....or was the victim of some older kid's idea of a snipe hunt.

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02/26/2008 6:35 PM

"snipe hunt" had me wondering, there. First time I've ever met the expression. Wikipedia saved by embarassment (or maybe it didn't ).

[General question] Do folks this side of the pond know of/use the expression?

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02/26/2008 6:53 PM

OK who let the cat out of the bag (another expression). Those snipe are endangered. We don't want those Limeys coming over and depleting the population. Besides that I think they've been holed up with bigfoot since the sixties.

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02/26/2008 10:28 PM

Your side of the pond has a snipe, we just get others to try to find them on this side

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02/27/2008 11:26 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe

I have been both on a real snipe hunt as part of a biology class survey and taken a couple of not so well informed young people on a "snipe hunt". You go out in the middle of the night to a grave yard and you get the victim to bang a pie tin with a branch and quietly say snipe-snipe-snipe. Then you sneak away and watch.

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02/27/2008 2:25 PM

When I was younger and stupider (yeah, believe it or not, that is possible), I was the butt of a snipe hunt by some of my older cousins that I did not know real well. They took me out to the middle of a cotton field in Arkansas on a pretext of showing mw something really neat (they would not say what) by letting me ride the handlebars of a bike. After we got there they fed me a line about hearing a bear approach (I was a young stupid city kid from Houston and knew nothing about bears or their likelihood of being in an Arkansas cotton field) and they took off on their bikes just as fast as they could pedal leaving me alone in the middle of that field. I just about shite myself AND gave myself a heart attack running the mile and a half back to the house .

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02/27/2008 5:18 AM

Not me. It sounds like hunting for a snark. I'm off to go rake the moon.

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02/27/2008 5:32 AM

Did you mean?

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"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine." --John Galt

I think this is the John Galt he has in mind...

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Thanks, but modesty overwhelms me - please donate my winnings to the Ayn Rand Fund - For Overprivleged Children...(ARF-FOC).

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I have not met an Atlas holding up the Firmament that perfectly. It is worthy of a glass shattering toast at Callahan's Place, IMHO.

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No no no, you're doing it all wrong! If you break the glass, you spill the beer!

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02/27/2008 12:24 PM

Rorschach said: "Why oh why do I get the feeling your grandpa was pulling your leg"

OK, maybe so - and what if he was? He was famous for story-telling, not for skunk-hunting. :)

My father overheard one of Grandpa's stories and objected: "Now, Pa, that's not how it happened!"

Grandpa calmly replied: "That's how it SHOULDA happened."

I really loved that guy.

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ROFLMAO!!! My Grandad used to start some stories off with - "now this is one of those stories that, if it isn't true, it oughta be..."! Loved HIM, too...

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In a previous posting I referred to my relocation of a rather sizeable eastern diamondback rattlesnake, which I illustrated with a generic pic of said snake. I mentioned that if/when a real-life pic became available I would post it here. Therefore: (I don't seem to be able to right it, but if you don't mind looking sideways at a snake, which is the only way some people will look at one, here 'tis.)

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You have to get it the right way round before posting!!!

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