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Cleaning windows

02/20/2008 11:18 AM

I have just sacked my window cleaner (maybe too hastily) thinking that I could do a better job cleaning my own windows. What ever I do the windows are are smeared when I finish.

I have tried window cleaning fluids with domestic tap water and even distilled water but I still have to finish off with a leather. The trouble is that the upper floor windows to my house are inaccessible from inside and I don't want to climb a ladder to get to them. Does anybody know what the smearing is please?

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02/20/2008 1:31 PM

I would venture to say it might be dirty.

Air is typically greasy and dust filled, so, unless you actually get a grease cutting solution onto the windows with a scrubbing or wiping action, you'll still have - dirt.

For cleaning solution, try adding vinegar to your water, and if you really don't want to climb up there or recall your window cleaner, try a long mop dipped into a water-vinegar mix, then wipe off with a long squeegee.

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02/20/2008 1:56 PM

Hi Bob - You behaved irresponsible therefor you have to bear the consequences.

What type of water are you using? I have dolomitic water and it deposits some calcium carbonate.

I have seen magnetic scrapers. with the outside one held in position by the magnet on the inside one.

But as a matter of fact I can for the best purpose in the world not get a window cleaned.

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02/20/2008 2:58 PM

I would say the smearing is because you fired your window washer.

If it was me you fired I would consider coming back if you asked me, but I would charge you 20% more.

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02/20/2008 4:10 PM

Bob I ask you have you ever looked through those windows and not seen them smeared. Maybe what you seeing is in the glass. Because I have never seen a piece of glass that could not be cleaned. I have seen defective glass that looked like it was smeared. Coatings now a days placed on glass for UV can degrade. Insulated glass units may have been improperly cleaned so the smears are inside. Failure of the seal on the insulated glass unit has cause condensation that ran down the glass on the inside. Tempered glass the glass is cooled with air jets that leave visible marks on the glass in the right light.

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02/20/2008 5:32 PM

Hello Bob Collins

Perhaps it's time for you to look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmAeijj5cM

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02/20/2008 11:00 PM

Good post, SparkY! I always enjoyed George Formby. In his day, he was unique in his ability to strum the ukulele. I can't do that, but hey, I can still wash windows. I knew about the vinegar thing a long time ago. Works a lot better than all these fancy concoctions you see in the stores now...and is more environmentally friendly too.

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02/20/2008 11:54 PM

The smearing occurs whenever the cleaning fluid you are using does not dissolve the deposits, but just displaces them. Try using a 50/50 mix of Windex and rubbing alcohol. This also works great to clean sinks and faucets.

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02/21/2008 12:10 AM

You can purchase window cleaning powders at most home supply stores or janitorial supply businesses.

Scrub window with cleaning solution, squeegee, wipe frame and then finish, if necessary, with crumpled newspaper.

Ammonia diluted in water works well if you need to make your own. Finish the window with crumpled up newspaper. Works very well.

Lots of the spray window cleaners have a wax to make the window sparkle. Unfortunately it also smears.

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I just moved to my new office . Windows were so dusty. I needed professional cleaners for my office.One of my friend suggested me about Rbc royal building cleaning ltd. She said their services are good. They are not time-consuming. She was happy with their services.I also hired them .They were professionals in cleaning .I saw that my windows were sparkling.They also provide cleaning services yearly.I am happy with their services.

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02/21/2008 12:35 AM

Hi Bob,

I have washed windows professionally and the ONLY way to do it is with a squegee.

Let me explain...

WHAT YOU NEED IS:

  • A good squegee -

  • A good scrubber:

  • A bucket: (no image - sorry; I think you can figure that one out!)
  • A good amount of clean, dry cloths, preferably terrycloth towels.
  • Dawn dishwashing detergent

THE PROCEDURE:

  • Fill bucket about half-full with warm to hot (80-140ºF) tap water and add a 1-second squirt (light squeeze - completely objective).
  • Dip scrubber in bucket and apply "Dawn" solution liberally to window while scrubbing with force normal to the plane of the window.
  • Once the window has been completely scrubbed, and before it has a chance to dry out, start the squegee process:
  • Starting at the left side of the window, from the top of the window, draw the squegee down to the bottom of the window.
  • IMPORTANT! - wipe all liquid off of the squegee with a towel after every descending stroke.
  • Continue to squegee from left to right until entire window is cleaned.
  • Using a clean towel, wipe down the periphery of the window to remove anr traces of water/cleaning solution.
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02/21/2008 12:48 AM

Post Script...

----There is no reason to preferentially use Dawn, (it just sounds cool). I have used Joy, Palmolive, et. al. with no variance in efficacy.

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02/21/2008 10:52 AM

This is the cats meow of answers. Works on large mirrors too which show streaks worse than windows

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02/21/2008 3:30 PM

The unskilled (e.g. me) may prefer to use malt vinegar as the finisher and dry off with newsprint - preferably unprinted. It is excellent advice to clean the frames as well as the windows - many "professionals" don't, and you can see the dirt return as soon as the next dew falls (sooner if it rains)

For upstairs windows that are inaccessible from inside (given that you don't want to go up a ladder) it seems you have the following options:
a) long-handled versions of the tools (it's hard to apply and control the sort of pressure that makes for a first-class job, so be sure that the handles are robust enough);
b) establish a method that you know works (at ground level), and then allow a less nervous member of the family go up the ladder to clean the upstairs windows;
c) beg, buy or borrow a platform or other secure structure (convince yourself that it really is first - some of these things are less good than ladders); or
d) Talk to any local friends you have in the area to see who has a meticulous and reliable window cleaner, and hire her forthwith.

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02/21/2008 1:01 AM

use newspaper as a cloth for wiping and drying! and water as the solution! perhaps put some dishwasher solution in! its made to clean glass anyway and its cheap!

But trust me on the newspaper!

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02/21/2008 1:52 AM

Hello Guest,

Many Newspapers are these days printed with vegetable based inks, unlike the old newspapers of yesteryear.

If you use a newspaper printed with vegetable ink, you will get smeary ink film across the glass.

Best to use a clean white paper towel, to dry off the window.

That way you can see if the glass is still dirty too.

A tip from a friend of mine, who runs a successful window cleaning business.

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02/21/2008 1:07 AM

Try plain newspaper...sounds funny but the USN taught me to clean, clean, clean. Even with no cleaning products, it will polish your glass spotless. If you use a light mist of Windex eg. it makes it easier and quicker but common newspaper will do the trick alone.

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02/21/2008 1:55 AM

Hello TLD2

Please note in my post: http://cr4.globalspec.com/comment/186384/Re-Cleaning-windows

The importance of not using most modern newspapers for cleaning windows, if printed with vegetable based inks.

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02/21/2008 5:54 AM

Allways used news paper and methylated spirits cant say as have noticed any difference from inks. This brings up glass spotless

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02/21/2008 7:18 AM

Yes News paper is the best for cleaning I have tried it and there is no smearing problem.

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02/21/2008 8:13 AM

I have always read newspaper works the best but do you know why?

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02/21/2008 3:38 PM

The abrasive qualities of wood-pulp are ideal, and the inks used for newspapers require a controlled absorption rate, so the vinegar (or whatever) is absorbed reasonably uniformly, rather than some areas of the paper soaking it up and then re-expelling it.

(And for some reason newspapers seem to work better if they have been read first - perhaps that just gives the print time to be absorbed more fully)

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02/21/2008 3:45 PM

Hello Guest,

<"........newspapers seem to work better if they have been read first...........">

That only works if the articles in the newspaper were absorbing ones

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02/21/2008 4:21 PM

Not too rapidly absorbing, or it all soaks in one place and then smears.

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02/21/2008 4:23 PM

Just thought about what I wrote - newspapers indulging in smears - surely not.

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02/21/2008 5:10 PM

Hello Guest,

An old soak

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02/21/2008 8:54 AM

It was already mentioned but again... add vinegar!

I found that most anything acidic will reduce or eliminate streaking. I found vinegar works best because it's a household item that doesn't contain impurities. A very diluted HCl / water mix works nice too.

You probably figured out the "Non Streaking" claim on windex is BS. I believe windex has a neutral PH. On the contrary turn your wash solution basic and you wouldn't be able to see out your windows.

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02/21/2008 9:03 AM

As a X-owner of a window cleaning business I can tell you without a doubt the best cleaning agent to use is Dawn dishwashing detergent. One good suirt per gallon will be all you need. Do not use enough to create suds.

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02/21/2008 9:09 AM

If you don't squeegee, dry the window with vertical strokes inside and horizontal strokes outside (or vice versa). That way you can tell is the streaks are inside or outside.

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02/21/2008 9:14 AM

If the smearing is due to grease/oil (including naturally-occurring vegetable oils from nearby plant life) use Dawn (similar products may work as well, this one DOES the job though) in HOT water.

If smearing is due to mineralization, use distilled white vinegar.

If smearing is due to anything else, try isopropanol (rubbing alcohol).

For all of the above, use plain newspaper (paper towels are a poor substitute) as a scrubber.

For upstairs windows, obtain one (1) crow (Corvus corvus), yes, the bird. Kill the bird and eat it in front of your estranged windowasher, feathers, feet, beak, and all. Then offer to rehire said ex-employee at a fair market raise. Or get used to heights.

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02/21/2008 10:53 AM

Don't kill the bird! Teach it to clean windows.

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02/21/2008 9:33 AM

I have seen allot of people get good results with using newspaper especially on automobile glass in detail shops. Anyone know why it works better?

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02/21/2008 10:14 AM

My wife has found a solution you put in a sprayer and attach it to your garden hose. Since I presume you are talking about the outside windows, just attack them with the stream. It cleans the window and the water sheets off nice and purdy; no streaks. AND, it keeps you off ladders.

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02/21/2008 12:00 PM

I'll make the sexist assumption that most of the posters here are men. Many probably are married. Does your spouse know that you are expert at cleaning windows? For a modest fee, I won't tell her.

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02/21/2008 3:43 PM

My wife taught me all I know about this - and I've checked it experimentally (very dilute Teepol, followed by malt vinegar and newspaper). But she doesn't think I should go up ladders "at my age" to save the price of the window-cleaner.

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02/21/2008 1:11 PM

You can try a bazillion different products, and you won't find one better than this. Use it with good quality lint free paper towels.

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02/21/2008 1:35 PM

I may conquered this issue in trying to clean automobile windshields while working at a service station whilst in college some 30 years ago:

Make the solution:

80% Windex or even most any household window cleaner, even generic.

15% isopropyl alcohol

5% household ammonia (not one that has additives)

The squeegee is probably viable and probably of value for large panes of glass.

Finish off/buff with a decent paper towel that has a low lint (trial and error, there are a number that are okay)

Nicely also gets bugs and other smutz/splashes off.

First time I've shared this with anyone.

Good luck

To this day, I use the same for household everything and automotive glass.

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02/21/2008 2:06 PM

Sounds like too much work for me. Is this a new trade? I'll stick to electricial and hire a window cleaner.

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02/21/2008 5:45 PM

While vinegar and water is a good solution, sometimes it is better to use an ammonia - water mix. It depends on whether the greasy materials on the window surface are basic or acidic in nature.

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02/22/2008 6:22 AM

To meticulous people like Bob,
Dirty windows are really a prob
But to make matters sadder,
He can't climb a ladder
So he's never quite "up" to the job.

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Brilliant and it made me laugh.

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Another fine effort from our resident Poet Laureate! Whom, I hasten to add, is clearly 'up to the job'...

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02/22/2008 7:29 AM

Thank you all very much for taking my problem to heart. I have a bit of experimenting to do which will keep me off the streets for a while but you have all been very helpful. Thank you all. Bob.

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