Water Batteries

Hi Kilgore

Not to far away from you. In Port Aberni for the moment about an hours drive nw of Nanaimo.

Ever since making contact with Martin Hunter in the early part of the 90's I've been having an awakening so to speak. He is he director of the National Institute For Inventors in Seneca, SC. Much of what is now on u tube, he was getting out supressed technology worldwide by snail mail. Never met the man, but am planning on going down that way sometime the latter part of this month.

There may be a way to design a copper-alluminum battery where it will be zero corrosive and be able to release much more of its energy. As I undertand, the catylist, salt or whatever in the water, is responsable for encouraging the electron flow.

The Joe Cell was named by Joe who invented it in 1995 downunder. He did not name it after himself, but those who tried to duplicate his work did. If you go to u tube, and type in 'Joe Cell, Joe talking', you will be able to listen to him firsthand.

In order for the Joe Cell to work, it must first be filled with 'charged water' not salt water. A charging cell using the same configuration is used to charge the water then put into the Joe Cell on the vehical.

The neg. and pos. flow together on a pathway like unto a mobius coil. Electron flow go out and comes back in a complete cycle. As this happens, it causes a collapse of the field energy resulting in a spike. This spike completes the triangle of energy.

As the water is being charged, the water being mostly acidic is phase changed which increases the ph. The health of our bodies depend on a high ph of 8.4 to maintain a high immune system. The water also has an immune system. High ph water will be tasty to drink having a neg. charge and cold. Its the impurities in the water that cause the water to heat. As the impurities come out of the 'molecular state' of the water, the water now takes on 'zero resistance' or becomes 'superconductive.' As you know, water takes on intension which has been proven by that Japanese doctor.

All this tells me that if water that is in the superconductive state is used in the battery regardless of the type of annode and cathode, it will produce an exponential electron flow. There would not be any need to add anything to overcome the resistance in the water. Water that is electrically pure will conduct electrons with very little heating. This is all very basic stuff just that no one that I know has connected all the dots to make it work.

Instead of producing 1 or 2 volts per cell, the water battery should produce on a level on one magnitube or higher.

Also, the best anodes and cathodes to use would no longer be metal but carbon rods. You would no longer need the potential difference to encourage electron flow. You now have a very simplified water battery with zero catylist.

As the water is now in a state of zero resitance, it now becomes a sort of accumilator of energy. You don't have to generate the energy chemically. Tesla, Keely, Morray, Brown, Gray and others were able to tap into the energy that exists all around us.

My best gues is that the battery would generate some kind of energy field or bubble that would capture the radiant energy. Water is universal and in its superconduve state can be tuned to any frequency. Haven't done this yet, just know that it will work.

So the first step is to build a charging Cell using the JC configuration, and start perfecting this new kind of water. New Water is the term given to it. If you drink it, it will put put your body back into alignment so that it can heal itself. We get sick because our energies get out of alignment.

ALL THOSE WHO READ THIS POST I CHALLENGE YOU TO PUT WHAT I'VE SAID TO THE TEST. YOU'RE THE EXPERTS. IF IT WORKS AS I ENVISION THIS WATER BATTERY WORKING, IT WOULD OPEN UP A WHOLE NEW PARADYM OF DOING BUSINESS.

Building a working Joe Cell to charge the water would be the first thin, or just have someone to build it for you. Downunder they tested this new water by take a few ounces and using a small plastic funnel, put it inside of a balloon. Next, they blew up the balloon, then took both ends of a jumper cable hooked to a battery charger, and held the connections onto the side of the balloon for approx. one minute. Next, they placed the balloon on the ground, and lit it with a long board. The balloon exploded like a hydrogen balloon. The water that spilled out onto the ground would ignite with a lighter and burn like butane having a blue flame. The water being superconductive, took on the memory of the 12 volt dc, converting the water into a burnable fuel.

A water battery employing this type of properties should cause the electron flow to become resonant causing an equal and opposite reaction. plates or cells could be used for the neutral but may not be needed. Too induse the desired charge into the water to capture the radiant energy, build the containment out of orgonite. They will make the water battery into a tranducer converting right hand sping energy into left hand spin. The neg. side can be earth grounded and the pos. side hooked into an antenal array. This would make the water battery into a type of Tesla Coil that is tuned to the higher frequencies. The water should accumilate this energy as it is able to recieve and transmit at the same time. You have a type of water capacitor that is highly active. The energy coming into the water cell would flow from one terminal to the other and into the water as this would be the point of least resistance. It should be possalbe then to connect two secondary outputs to capture the peak energies in the water. Once the water is tuned and charged, it would become your working medium. There you have it.

When this stuff comes to me Kilgore, I have to write it down or loose it. It all comes down to combining the four elements together with the fifth element being the resulting energies.

To make a receiver, you must first have a conducting medium. Then the pos. needs to been tuned to the frequency you want to attract. A Tesla Coil or pancake coil is already resonant and tuned to this higher energy. The earth complete the circuits and can be enhanced by placing a Tesla Coil in the ground. Both the water and the earth are needed along with the air from which the energy is recieved. The fire is the electron flow that is generated to capture the 5th state energy.

I would imagine brother that some of the learned engineers out there are going to get a bit ruffled from this cause it does not fit into there way of thinking. All the thinkers and inventors of the past and present think outside the conventional box of science. And most of them had working models that proved their point.

For three years now, I've been using propane to create an implosion burn inside of a metal pipe. Stainless been on the low end as being a conductor of heat, works the best and can easily be made transparent orange with very little fuel.

I've spun propane and air inside of titanium stock, and with certain materials placed within the end of the pipe, induced a sound reaction that caused the pipe to become superconductive. Have anyone seen titanium glow where who could almost read a newspaper in the dark? Or seen copper become superconductive causing the propane to sublimate into the plasma state melting the titanium? I've got the pics to prove it and if you want could even send you some of the samples that destroyed the pipe in the last test. I've sure that you would see a change on the molecular state.

I've no doubt that a simple water battery can be made that would drawn in the Tesla energies and transduce them at the same time into dc. A battery that would contiunue to run and never need charging. Some of you that have the facilities, time and resources could easily make this. But I must warn you, if your intensions are for self gain or any other alterior motive, it will not work for you. Why? Because the water will pick up on your intension. Water is affected by our intention as that Japanese doctor has proven. Our intension is the missing ingrediant to make it work.

The reason the earth is begining is going into a state of chaos and unrest, is because the intensions of the people are focused on self and not on others. The only way to survive the times ahead is to draw together with those who have the same intension. A shaking and a seperation is happening between those who have a love for self and those who have a love for others. If we draw together having the right intension, we will see results. And these results will manifest into someting tangible that will become a blessing to many. As I've already said, these water acumilator energy batteries will work to provide all the electrical energies for the home. The result would be a pure energy output with near to zero distortion. In otherwards, you could use it as the souce power to generate vortex flux. The reason that magnectic flus is stationary, is that the energy has junk in it. Get rid of the junk and the EM field will spin. Forget about having to wire your house cause you won't need it.

Got to go brother. Working on making the water at this point then can commense to put this water cell battery together. It would be easier to make the water as it has more that just one application. It's the best water purifier on earth. Now your able to grow food that will pure and healthy to eat. Just one of the many benifits.

New Water can be generated by condensing the water from Browns Gas flame. The Joe Cell is able to electrically purify large quanties of the stuff. So this would be the starting point. Got to go. Sure appreciate your reply. Blessings, Joshua.

Hi Jack of All Trades

I do appreciate your comments and understand your point of view.

Much experimenting is being done on the Joe Cell. Joe himself had a NDE back in 1995, and it was after this that he intuitively put together the cell that was able to power a vehical with the gas line fully disconnected.

If you go to u tube, you will be able to see his posts first hand. Just type in Joe Cell, Joe talking, and go form there. It is worth the few hours to get it from the horses mouth.

You may want to check out 'Stan Deyo' talking about the disclosure of how to make anti-gravity as well.

For the past three years I have been experimently with creating vortex combustion that is able to convert a burnable fuel like propane into an endothermic state releasing much more of its potential energy. During this time I have witnessed many anomolies, one of which is the generation of over a million BTU. In these tests using only short copper pipes, the metal itself has intantly become transparent while ejecting a OU flame in the fourth state.

In the titanium tests, I have seen the titanium sublimate to the superconductive state of the boiling point, seen copper become superconductive and melt the titanium, and seen where a plasma arc was created within a split second that sheared the titanium pipe in half. Got the pieces to prove it. Sound or self generating frequency is the key to converting third state matter and energy into the fourth state. In the first titanium test, the pipe itself became pot-marked inside and out as a likely result of the energy transfer from within the sub space of the material. It left the test piece with a strong arcing smell. As you know, the arcing is a sign of the metal being converted into the gas state of which there is no record.

In one test using 99 percent iso, a the plama state was triggered converting the copper pipe into the supercondtive state with a high yield plasma ejection. Turning on the water vapor flush, I turned off the iso and the water continued to burn in the fourth state of matter for a full ten seconds. I'm not saying something that I did not experience firsthand.

Bill Williams who had recently duplicated the Joe Cell was approached by two MIB and told to stop all operations or see the death of himself and his family. Why would there be such opposition if it was a bunch of nonsense?

As far as my flame pipe experiments, I'm soon to put them on u tube. They may look simple but the hidden potential can be applied a thousand different ways if one has the intuitive ability to bring it forth.

Thanks for your reply, Joshua.

Nicely put. An extended compilation version of what I have said over the years here.

GA for you.

Greetings All

I don't mind getting politely rebuffed. However, if you go to <magnetpowerinc.com> and listen to the radio podcast, you may find yourselves being rebuffed. Just being polite here. Be blessed, Joshua.

Manchild,

Did you mean www.magneticpowerinc.com?

A quick look at this site is all it takes - mentions of "quantum vacuum" as an energy source, and "zero point energy" are a dead giveaway.

Pseudoscience, pure and simple, else known as male bovine fecal material.

Wikipedia: Zero-point Energy

"In quantum field theory, it is a synonym for the vacuum energy, an amount of energy associated with the vacuum of empty space. In cosmology, the vacuum energy is taken to be the origin of the cosmological constant which is thought by many to produce dark energy. Experimentally, the zero-point energy of the vacuum leads directly to the Casimir effect, and is directly observable in nanoscale devices."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

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Wikipedia: Vacuum Energy

"Its effects can be observed in various phenomena (such as spontaneous emission, the Casimir effect, the Van-Der Waals bonds, the Lamb shift), and it is thought to have consequences for the behavior of the Universe on cosmological scales."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy

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Wikipedia: Casimir effect

"The Casimir effect was measured more accurately in 1997 by Steve K. Lamoreaux of Los Alamos National Laboratory [12] and by Umar Mohideen and Anushree Roy of the University of California at Riverside [13]. In practice, rather than using two parallel plates, which would require phenomenally accurate alignment to ensure they were parallel, the experiments use one plate that is flat and another plate that is a part of a sphere with a large radius. In 2001, a group at the University of Padua finally succeeded in measuring the Casimir force between parallel plates using microresonators[14]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

It is very easy to selectively quote something in such a way as to give the impression that something is said which is quite contrary to the original intention of the author. Such is the case here.

At the risk of also selectively quoting from the uber-reliable Wikipedia,

From the article on Zero-Point Energy :

"The Casimir effect has established zero point energy as an uncontroversial and scientifically accepted phenomenon. The concept of zero point energy has also become associated with pseudoscience, particularly the design and invention of "free energy" devices, which are essentially perpetual motion machines."

And from the article on Vacuum Energy :

"The existence of vacuum energy is also sometimes used, outside of mainstream physics, as controversial theoretical justification for the possibility of free energy machines. It has been argued that due to the broken symmetry (in QED), free energy does not violate conservation of energy, since the laws of thermodynamics only apply to equilibrium systems. However, consensus among particle physicists is that this is incorrect and that vacuum energy cannot be harnessed to do usable work. In particular, the second law of thermodynamics is unaffected by the existence of vacuum energy."

Note that I did not interpret the wiki excerpts. Interesting that you assumed I posted this information in support of the obviously dubious "water battery" web site. On the contrary, I agree that no one has (as far as we know) figured out a way to tap the zero-point energy/vacuum energy. Maybe no one will ever succeed. The point of those excerpts was to point out that *mainstream science considers the ZPE to be a real phenomenon*. So we shouldn't automatically reject a claim simply for mentioning such terms. We should reject claims if tests fail to provide supporting empirical evidence. The scientific method relies on empiricism, not guilt-by-association.

Hi Canderous

Heard that scientests in Russia have perfected super deionized water, and have heard of a company that has invested millions of dollars into pumping out 2oo thousands gallons a days of super ionized water having an extra three electrons. The water is highly conductive. Anyone got any comments concerning this. From what I can remember, they spent upward of 36 million to develop the plant. Imagine using this super ionized water to make a highly efficient water battery. The neg. charged ions become the electolyte.

How bout a link or any kind of background?

How much energy is used in the production of the "super deionized" water?