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What Is This Device?

08/15/2009 10:53 PM

My farmer cousin found this heavy metal device behind my late uncle's farmhouse (north Nebraska US). We first thought it was a pulley mounted on it's side, but there is no central pivot point. It is bolted on three points of the round (22in/55cm) piece. The only markings are the "19" on each leg. It was thought there was an icehouse in this area, gone before either of us we born (50+ years).

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08/16/2009 1:01 AM

It's a stand (or bottom) of a pot-belly stove.

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08/16/2009 8:10 AM

Thats what I would say

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08/16/2009 2:48 AM

I think it is a (bi directional) commode. It has the added functionality of separating the fluids and the solids.

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08/16/2009 4:00 AM

It is more like a (discharge head) baseplate for a rope driven turbine (bore-hole) pump.

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08/16/2009 4:15 AM

Not wit dem feet!

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08/16/2009 5:00 AM

I have seen similar looking bearing pulley baseplate / pedestals.

This is the closest image I could get. One has to uses some imagination.

I am also missing the bolt down holes at the bottom but they could be on the inside of the legs.

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08/16/2009 5:26 AM

Very cool!!!

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08/17/2009 10:01 PM

Sorry for my stupidity (I'm an electronics guy) What are you showing me here in this diagram?? I do have a bit of mechanical/fluidic knowledge!!

Thanks!! ss

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08/18/2009 1:52 PM

Hi SidSid

It is a sketch of a bore-hole turbine pump, Head , piping with shaft and pump unit.

Used for abstracting of water from underground.

Water would be required in the process.

Your part make one think it is the part on top of the well with the pulley.

just beneath it (fixed or loose) would have been a discharge bend with a seal for the shaft to go through.

Do you have more detail?

What about a photo showing the bottom?

Is the pulley on a bearing?

Are the feet on the photo hidden in the ground?

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08/17/2009 10:03 PM

Sorry for my stupidity (I'm an electronics guy) What are you showing me here in this diagram?? I do have a bit of mechanical/fluidic knowledge!!

Thanks!! ss

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08/16/2009 5:51 AM

You don't know what it is? Really?

That top part doesn't spin, does it? it's mounted firmly to the "base" right?

There's a hole in the lower flange, isn't there?

Is there a pawl or a mounting for one on the "lower" inside?

Is that a drain hole in the ring?

Has it occurred to you that this is not the proper way to look at it? Are we sure that those are legs?

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08/16/2009 5:56 AM

No, but there's a grommet acceptor loop in the tread-line.

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08/16/2009 11:39 AM

Mounts a drive belt. Helps to keep the tension, if this wheel is fixed. May be part of a saw.

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08/16/2009 12:37 PM

ANY ideas??

Yes,

It looks like a pot seperator, used before the prohibition. Some seeds seem to have fallen on the ground and sprouted underneath the device.

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08/16/2009 12:43 PM

Ha, good catch.

Sid_Sidow: I think that knock on your door is the feds wanting to know more about your farmer cousin.

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08/16/2009 3:36 PM

Love to see the flip side if possible.

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08/17/2009 10:09 AM

No need to, it plays exactly the same tune!!!!!

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08/16/2009 11:19 PM

It may be the base of a diaphragm pump- the groove around the pulley-looking thing would be a seal seat for the diaphragm to seal to. There would be two passages, inlet and outlet, with flapper valves controlling the direction of flow. The flapper valves would most likely have decayed away...

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08/17/2009 12:12 AM

Hendrik is probably right.

The small holes around the top lip align with a c-face vertical pump motor, and the square hole in the circular "drip-pan" is to drain any seal leakage. The smaller hole in the center is for the pump shaft connection. CJM

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08/17/2009 3:53 AM

So that's where it's gone! I've been looking all over for that. Can I have it back now, please? <Cough, splutter>

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08/17/2009 4:12 AM

How about a sewer lift. The legs are reminiscent of an Impeller style sewer lift or sump pump, no need to bolt down.

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08/17/2009 4:42 AM

I found this a bit eyebrow raising.

Check out page 331 where they describe thawing water pipes electrically. There are also a few illustrations that appear to resemble the device in question. CJM

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08/17/2009 8:11 AM

It looks just like the bottom of something my dad has in his back yard - a "grape juicer", used to make wine. Someone mentioned that it can separate liquids from solids.

Well, if you add a barrel-like structure on top, just with spaces between the wooden parts, so the liquid can flow through, and a lid that you can lower and lift inside the "barrel", like a screw, you have a grape press. It might just be that...

In a few days, I can post a picture of the one my dad has. It works fine, even if its not as fun a using your bare feet!

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08/17/2009 8:29 AM

looks to me like part of a pipe bender. The lever and other roller are missing.

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08/17/2009 10:21 AM

Looks somewhat like the bottom of a small Forge, used to heat horseshoes......? Dave.

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08/17/2009 10:42 AM

Capstan?

Do all three legs have a hook on one side like this:-

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08/17/2009 9:54 PM

All three legs are identical - "19" and all!

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08/17/2009 11:25 AM

I'm with Vermin on this one. Base for a pot-belly stove - or a water heater.

Just looking at the clues we have - it appears to be part of a freestanding device because of the seeming lack of mounting holes to affix it to the ground. Yes, they could be on the inside of the legs...but that seems inconvenient and not at all in the style of the period. For example, look at antique hand water pumps (which for a minute I also thought this might be a part of) and you'll see they have mounting holes on the outside.

There look to be 6 equidistant mounting holes on the permiter of the uppermost part. Suitable for mounting a stove / tank to the base?

The #19 might refer to the size of the wood stick the stove could accept. From a little snooping on the web, I've found one record where someone mentioned in a forumn that their stove has a #17 on it. So...this is maybe one or two sizes bigger?

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08/17/2009 12:52 PM

Could it be an old tire changing device?

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08/17/2009 6:28 PM

It looks like the frame for a potters wheel minus the wheel and kicker.

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08/17/2009 9:56 PM

Is not made to spin!

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08/18/2009 12:18 PM

On the potter wheel I used to have the bearing was attached to the wheel. It rested on a flange in the center similar to what I see in your picture. To clean it you picked up the entire wheel/disc and set it aside. This left a kick device that ran up thru the center. With the wheel off it looked a lot like what you have. The kick device was attached to three little claws, one on each leg, lifting and rotating it backwards removed it.
The bearing was about 4 inches in diameter and non sealed for easy cleaning and greasing.

The flange was cut to fit the bearing tightly.
If it had clay on it the bearing would not go in easily. The one I had was canadian made. Assembled it was just over knee high, which was too short for my needs.

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08/17/2009 7:02 PM

It just looks like a pot holder to me. K-mart has a similar one.

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08/18/2009 4:44 AM

Found on farm? How about, remains of a smoker.

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08/18/2009 2:02 PM

I missed the part about the 3 bolts.

It could be a stub shaft assembly for an engine (bolt onto the flywheel for example.

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