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What If BP Declares Bankruptcy!

06/01/2010 11:58 PM

BP has lost 1/3 of it's value in the last few weeks.

What happens if they walk away, now that they have, "brought oil to American shores" and can't stop the gusher?

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06/02/2010 12:18 AM

The stock did tank.

BP did not declare bankruptcy as far as I can see.

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06/02/2010 12:24 AM

Sorry. You are correct. I took a little poetic license there. BP has not "yet" taken the inevitable next step in the fight to plug the leak.

(Of money)

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06/02/2010 1:35 AM

There will be a lot of lawyers getting very wealthy at everybody else's expense. That's just for the start.

BP is not just one company but a "federation" of many smaller operations operating under the BP corporate umbrella. I suspect that the dotted lines have already been drawn as to where the affected operations will be severed. There will be a lot of sandbagging and shoring up of the corporate entity.

The "singlets" and "backpacks"(middle/upper managers) who are responsible will be identified by HR and their terminations will be orchestrated, quietly or as noisily as is required to settle the stockmarket.

As for the Gusher, well if they don't/can't plug it soon and by that I mean within a fortnight. Then it may be that a politically inspired intervention may occur. That could be that the government declares absolute sovereignty on the site and then makes a deal with another "U.S." oil company to take over the disaster for the extraction rights. An action that would reset the disaster stopwatch for the government. Or they could ask the Russians for a quiet favour, but I don't think so.

Where is Red Adair when you need him?

{I do know he has passed on}

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06/02/2010 2:06 AM

Expropriating the field for the benefit of the person/company responsible for cleaning up the mess is a legislated option in SA . What is the law in the US or other countries?

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06/03/2010 3:07 AM

They seem to make it up as they go and the attorneys take notes...

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06/03/2010 10:28 AM

That could be that the government declares absolute sovereignty on the site and then makes a deal with another "U.S." oil company to take over the disaster for the extraction rights.

"Everyone" is already there. See this insider message written in to a blog I follow:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/05/critical_perspective.php

I found it VERY informative and enlightening, if only to illustrate the scope of the problem.

My reply to the original post (what if BP declares bankruptcy): then we will have the beginnings of justice.

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06/03/2010 11:09 AM

Taken from linked blog:

"If you only monitor the national coverage, you'd think BP is going it alone while we all sit by, but the reality is this is an industry-wide effort because we all know what's at stake."

They're right... I don't own a TV anymore, haven't owned one in years so I get everything off the net. Most of my mainstream sources do hint at that it is only BP in the area... which is part of the source of my frustration.

Thanks for the link... I will be following local Houston coverage more closely now.

Also, I guess they just successfully cut the pipe, although "slightly irregular"

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06/03/2010 3:23 AM

How does the IF get into this? The day I saw these three stooges sit there and play dumb it daunted on me. If?

Hope all goes well. Ky.

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06/03/2010 3:29 AM

We'll get gased

We'll get our natural gas back...

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06/03/2010 5:48 AM

Are you sure you want "your" natural gas back ?? up the same route ?

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06/03/2010 7:41 AM

We'll do what we should have done when BP first failed: Assemble a task force of top minds in the area of deep sea oil recovery, and make BP listen to them. If I let a 10,000 BPD oil spill flow into a pristine area the challenge would not be left in my hands more than a few hours no matter how big I was.

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06/03/2010 10:03 AM

Currently BP is still very profitable in lieu of their repair spending. The falling stock price is being driven by fear in what could happen once they are held liable for clean up, damages to the fishing industry, and lost tourism. The BP senior leadership cannot walk away. Someone needs to be blamed, so the game nowadays is to find justice by throwing senior leadership all in jail. In reality those fat guys in the corner office only scream for increased profits and have no clue what goes on behind the scenes.

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06/03/2010 10:20 AM

I have not heard many mentions of the Gulf War Oil Spill which, I think, is still the largest on record. Geographically, there are many similarities... the Gulf War Spill and the Deepwater Horizon Spill both have impacted marshlands.

From what I have read, the lack of wave energy, and the overall stagnant environment of a marshland greatly hinders oil degradation.

Also, I am not hearing a lot about Transocean's continued role and liability in this matter. When you're a Turn-Key company, supplying all equipment, personnel, activity, and experience at a site; you assume a lot of the responsibility... regardless of what the 'company man' of the actual site's owner tells you to do. And regardless of what minimum compliance requires... there are still 'business ethics' that should guide decisions. Sure BP is a large company, with a lot of clout, but Transocean Ltd. is no slouch of a firm either... they have some muscle behind their name and they were the Subject Matter Experts onsite.

I mean, if I'm paying a turn-key solution provider 650,000 USD a day in rental fees to perform a task, you can damn sure bet I would hold them liable if something went awry.

And finally, from what I've read, BP only owns a 65% stake in that prospect. So where is Anadarko Petroleum with their 25% liability, and Mitsui with their 10% liability? Come on, let me see some of their employees out there cleaning up at least. You own a percentage of the oil, you own a percentage of its clean up.

Anyone with a business interest in off-shore drilling needs to commit resources. I should see a line of tankers and skimmers form companies all over the world, staged... waiting like taxies at an airport or like ambulances were outside of ground zero after 9/11. As one skimmer/tank needs to pull out due to either fuel, supplies, or capacity limits, the next one is pulling in to take over.

The off-shore drilling industry needs to take this as a calling to the continued viability of their industry. They need to come together, as one voice, and address this matter.

This tragedy will have lasting impact on not only the single company cited in news headlines, but the off-shore drilling industry as a whole.

So, in response to the OP's question... if BP 'walks away' there should already be a plethora of other companies with a stake in the off-shore drilling industry ready and poised to take the lead.

My apologies for venting, it's just to-date I have maintained my composure, I have looked at things rationally and tried to keep things in perspective. Although it's been hard... I have seen the effects of the Gulf War Spill first hand while I was performing a Personal Security Detail mission during my last deployment to Iraq. Over a decade later the saltwater mashes there still suffer. This spill has the potential to be much worse, and my frustration is growing.

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06/03/2010 11:43 AM

Agree with javaHead. New Domain Experts are being created in the area of Ultra-deep water drilling, as we watch. I, too, thought that due to the lower specific gravity of oil, it would rise to the top of the 110 tonne containment dome for easy removal. I'm well aware of methane clathrates, and it never occurred to me that ice would clog the outlet and allow methane gas to overcome the 110 ton buoyancy of what amounts to a poorly designed diving bell. If the dome had been counter-weighted for a CH4 fill - That's a lot of tonnes of water -buoyancy -I believe that sufficient negative pressure could have been applied to move an oil-ice mixture up topside. Also, if a compressed air torch (air pressure 151 Bar) could be struck under a ballasted dome, the free methane could be burned off, gently, and >might< have provided enough BTU's to keep the methane-ice from plugging the riser. If BP declares Bankruptcy, someone else gets to learn these thing. Different name, many of the same staff. Say, didn't PetroBras make some ultra-deep discoveries? I hope they are watching-- closely.

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Re: What If BP Declares Bankruptcy!

06/04/2010 2:15 AM

A piece of this puzzle; this post from another thread may avail you to other considerations.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/comment/575970/Re-Oil-Spill-Effect-on-Water-Temperature

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