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Global destruction in 2012

07/03/2010 12:40 PM

Is that real that the whole world will be distorted in 2012 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzuQIr_fPU&feature=related

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Re: Global destruction in 2012

07/03/2010 12:43 PM

Could be ?????????

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07/03/2010 12:58 PM

Yes. It's true. Sell all your belongings and send me all your money now. You won't need it, and I have a secret way to take it with me. I'll return it all "on the other side", I promise.

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07/03/2010 6:39 PM

Make sure you put on your metal helmet to protect yourself from Vader's powers.

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07/03/2010 1:16 PM

I can't say for sure. But, just in case, I'm going to sell my house around Thanksgiving 2012 and start drinking heavily and spending all of my money to make sure I'm prepared...... Oh wait, I did that just before we entered the new millennium and all of the computers were going to crash and die. It's taken years to recover from that good idea. Maybe I'll leave this one alone. Every time I prepare for the end of the world, it just ends up being the end of my world. This post is best read with a grain of salt.

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07/03/2010 9:22 PM

Well Karmart, you ware waiting for disaster to happen in the year 2000,but the disaster came one year later (2001) ,there was not much error in your expectation - you ware actually right about the new millennium.

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07/03/2010 1:17 PM

Why worry? In two years you'll know, and there won't be anything you can do about it one way or another.

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07/03/2010 1:35 PM

The arrival of Barak Obama to inside the White House is a sure sign that end of the world is very near.

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07/03/2010 3:27 PM

Don't even get started down that path. This is an international forum, bear that in mind when posting.

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07/04/2010 5:29 AM

How are you today Rohrschach?

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07/03/2010 2:04 PM

The world has already been distorted. Haven't you noticed?

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07/03/2010 2:32 PM

Can the whole world's nuclear power combined save the world from destruction ?

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07/03/2010 4:17 PM

Another data point that proves that the internet is dumbing us down.

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07/04/2010 9:01 PM

Oh! No! Hero,

I never claimed to something about everything, or even every thing about anything!

But this I will say with a limited knowledge about many things. If the world comes to an end on December 31 at 12;PM, I will beee tooo busy dodging the "immatures" to even giivveeve a damb.

As for all of us who play around here on CR4, we can go separately or collectively, but if we wait until 2012 to go "we'll all explode" and our collective "knowledge" will be scattered all about the universe. Some might say that we are just stinking up the interstellernet.now

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07/03/2010 5:18 PM

Okay, this question begs so many more questions that the whole thing is ridiculous. However, just for the fun of it, let us try to tackle it logically.

The first question is, are we talking about the actual, physical destruction of the planet itself or the destruction of life on the surface of the planet? Secondly, what is to be the agency of this destruction?

If we are talking about the actual, physical destruction of the planet, there are a couple of possibilities which come to mind. First of all is a massive, worldwide earthquake so powerful that it literally shakes the planet to pieces. This seems rather unlikely to me, as the energy required is quite beyond anything contained within the entire planetary mass.

A more likely possibility is a really massive asteroid strike, though to actually reduce the entire planet to another asteroid belt would require a projectile of really significant mass and fantastic velocity. Such a body would almost have to be interstellar, and the possibility of being hit by such body is vanishingly small. Not impossible, obviously, but astronomically unlikely, no pun intended.

Another possibility is a close pass by a really massive body. Within Roche's limit, this could tear the planet apart, and outside that limit would cause massive tectonic upheavals. However, we would very likely be aware of such a thing centuries in advance, considering the distances involved.

Yet another possibility would be the impact or close passage of a singularity. Obviously, a really large singularity we would already be aware of, so the above argument applies. However, the impact of a very small singularity, say less than a single planetary mass, could have dire consequences indeed. Such a body could be very hard to detect and virtually impossible to deflect. If this object were to hit fast enough, it would go through our world like a bullet through swiss cheese, possibly shattering the planet and certainly causing massive earthquakes. And if it hit slowly enough to come to rest inside the planet, it would devour it whole, leaving a somewhat larger singularity in our former orbit.

Of course it is possible that our sun could do something really extraordinary, such as move into it's red giant phase or go nova. However, our understanding of stellar processes suggest that this is highly unlikely for a very long time to come. Though I suppose it's not absolutely impossible.

Keep in mind that all of the above possibilities, while not impossible, are highly unlikely. While our understanding of the universe is far from complete, our present knowledge seems to preclude most of them, the energy required to destroy a planet is absolutely huge, and, our world is an almost vanishingly small target.

Now the sterilization of the planet's surface is perhaps a bit more likely, be it by astronomical processes or by our own hands.

Certainly a global nuclear war could at least potentially wipe us all out. Also there is the possibility of some sort of rouge biological agent. These are possibilities we have all lived with for decades.

A large enough solar eruption could, at least conceivably sterilize the Earth. However again, our present understanding of the behavior of our sun suggests that this is unlikely.

The most likely agency, to my mind at least, would be a large asteroid or comet strike. The Earth has been hit countless times by fair-sized objects. It is widely held that a large asteroid is responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. However, it seems likely that we would be aware of such an object with enough warning that, by leaving nothing off the table and not wasting a single moment or holding anything back of resources or man-power, we could deflect it.

I realize of course that I've barely scratched the surface, that many others could come up with scenarios which I have not covered. The Biblical Tribulation for example, which I personally believe the most likely but which is completely beyond the scope of this forum. However, of those that I did discuss, I think it likely we are at least reasonably safe.

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Re: Global destruction in 2012

07/03/2010 7:24 PM

Actually , right now we can see the evil covers every corner in the whole world, so we have to expect some thing similar to the "Global Flood" happened thousands years ago, but this time will not be a flood but complete global destruction.

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07/03/2010 7:51 PM

This is ridiculous.

I looked at the linked video and it is full of misinformation, distorted facts, and many are flat out wrong "facts".

Evil has always been homogeneous across the world. This is nothing new. There is no evidence to suggest that 2012 holds any significance for the end of the world - none - zero - zilch (well, maybe for elected Democrats).

The Mayan calendar is actually a collection of calendars. The significance of 2012 (according to the Mayans) is not the prediction of end of the world, rather a prediction of a change in the world consciousness. However, there are a number of idiots out there who enjoy being the messenger of fear and panic. That, too, is nothing new, because there have always been those idiots chanting that discourse since the beginning of time. Every year they hope that they finally get it right, but after thousands of years of bad predictions I give their predictions a significance of zero. So should you.

With the advent of the internet, these kooks finally have a global soapbox to broadcast this kind of crap. As I cited earlier, the number of Jim Jones wannabes just seems to be coming out of the woodwork proportionally to the number of "connected" homes. It's a long distance call between where these folks are and the boarder of reality.

You believe what you want to, but a nobler fight would be to worry more about how you can make a positive contribution to the world we have today and spend less time entertaining these sirens of doom.

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07/03/2010 7:57 PM

Well said sir. GA from me.

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07/03/2010 8:24 PM

I would not say "yes" or No" , i will wait the year 2012 to come and see.

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07/03/2010 8:58 PM

Definitely there will be a day at which our world will have an end , but no single scientist on the earth can determine the time.

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07/03/2010 9:35 PM

It looks a lot better in Hex. We get to party down until 7DC!!

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07/03/2010 10:04 PM

The best minds in science believe that the earth will not be merely "distorted" (the distortion already having occurred) but obliterated. The YouTube video is correct re the date: December 21, 2012. (12212012 << the cognoscenti know what this means.) There is a video you can stream from Netflix that supplies full details. It is called something like 2012. If it were about 1/10 as long it would be mildly entertaining... but as it is it comes across as endless drivel from absolute and total nutcases.

But that's how the cognoscenti work -- if it seems utterly stupid, it's real -- they make it seem fake so the rest of us will be caught off guard.

Prepare.

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07/03/2010 10:55 PM

Believe or not, it is up to you -that your choice.

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07/03/2010 11:10 PM

Just checking a few facts is all you need to do.

Like... our Sun takes 240 million years to complete one orbit around the galactic center, which has no relation to the Mayan calendar.

Here is my prediction: On 2012, December 22nd, there will be an announcement that there has been an error in translating the date of the End of the World; again.

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07/03/2010 11:20 PM

In such matter, i don't believe any scientist, but i believe the monk Nostradamus.

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07/04/2010 9:25 AM

It's the end of the Inca calendar. If you're not Inca, you'll be OK.

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07/04/2010 9:55 AM

Remember Noah's Ark sir.

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07/04/2010 10:50 AM

BEND OVER AND KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE!!!! ***LOL***

suxers all...

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07/04/2010 12:35 PM

Look at GROUN ZERO area to realize that every thing appears not possible can happen in a second.

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07/04/2010 1:17 PM

The downing of the twin towers obviously did not seem impossible to the terrorists that masterminded the deed nor to the architects that tried to design in failsafes to prevent the collapse.

More important, just because everything is possible does not make it a certainty that anything will happen.

For a engineering and scientific based forum there seems to be a surprising amount of dependence on superstition and emotionally based arguments here.

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07/04/2010 1:22 PM

My GA to DrMoose, deserving.

As I get it: The Mayan only extended their calendar to 2012, perhaps to do an update later. They used it for weather prediction, crop planting etc, after realizing natural cycles, and likely for religious purposes, all other is open to conjecture and interpretation today.

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07/04/2010 2:10 PM

The German scientists also talk about a very large object is moving fast towards the earth and it will hit the earth by 2012.

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07/04/2010 2:58 PM

If I am not mistaken, this is the asteroid Apophis, which will be a near miss, but won't actually collide with the earth. This could make it a good opportunity for rehearsing some asteroid deflection strategies. Unless we figure this out, sooner or later we will indeed get slammed. "Sooner or later" could be 10x years, with a considerable range for x (something like 0-8).

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07/04/2010 5:32 PM

The problem is that the government agency that would practice on this near miss could screw up and produce a real hit...

Do we want to take that risk?

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This is conceivable. But the probability is really low. If the asteroid on its own would miss the earth, only one very exact deflection would make it collide. Other deflections, or just leaving it alone, would still result in a miss.

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07/04/2010 7:33 PM

Possible fragmentation could disperse enough debris to produce a shower of large meteorites. This shotgun effect doesn't need to be precise to be destructive.

If they are going to try something, they should wait until it has passed the earth orbit and is clearly on its way out. Then they can try aiming it at Jupiter or Saturn.

Remember, if anything can go wrong, it usually does...

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If I recall correctly, Apophis' aphelion is just outside Earth's orbit, so aiming it at Saturn would require a massive shift in it's orbit.

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07/04/2010 7:52 PM

Of the two possible strategies--deflection and fragmentation--fragmentation would still leave the same total mass colliding with the earth, except for fragments that were "blown clear." As for deflection, my earlier comments still apply: only one way to hit, gazillions of ways to miss.

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07/04/2010 8:12 PM

Every day the world ends for millions. They just simply die. So what if it ends for all of us on the same day, whats the problem, issue? Be afraid be very afraid?

What an arrogant position to even discuss! Get bloody real and stop thinking this planet is made for us alone. We are only an insignificant part of it all. Enjoy the ride, it could be over just around the next corner. Putting a date on it is blasphemy and that is connected with the pest of religion. Oh oh, were is admin when you need it.

Useless crap to entertain ones self with the future. Do it now and get over it, Ky.

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07/04/2010 8:23 PM

If you don't like this discussion, get away and don't share.

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Just thought I'd put things in perspective. You just keep trying to be more important than you are. We are nothing in the great scheme of things and some times even less.

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07/04/2010 10:52 PM

What's up everyone, I'm new to the forum and just wanted to say

hey. Hopefully I posted this in the right section!

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07/05/2010 8:37 AM

Right section? It kinda depends. At the moment, we're discussing the end of the world (and I use the word 'discussing' lightly). But, anyway, welcome to CR4, always glad to see a new face (or avatar, as the case may be).

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Ok, you want the truth (I'm gonna get in soooo much trouble for this) here it comes.

Several billion years ago this planet was formed. A few hundred million years ago WE seeded this rock as an experiment, think high school sciences. WE wanted to see 1) if WE could create "intelligent life", 2) if said life could be self sustaining, 3) if said life would one day seek and find us for answers, and finally 4) if said life could survive in harmony with this amazing planet and each other.

Sadly the first batch seemed to have some brain abnormalities. They thought that our students, who stayed among them to chronicle their development, were Gods. What a bunch of loons. So we took our students out of the equation, sent them home and left only the professor to keep notes. Again you crackpots missed the point...He became known as the "ONE TRUE GOD". And since you were made from our DNA (by a bunch of kids I might add) The stupid professor got lonely and mated with one of your kind (EEEEWWWW!!! I feel dirty just thinking of it) and made a son...Guess who that was. Many of your religions depict him as many people.

Well, since you lot were such a dismal failure, we told all of the heads of your religions that we were leaving you to your own devices and would return to check on you at a later date. Guess what that date was. We also told them that if you didn't get it right by the time we got back we were going to take control of you all and set you back on the harmonious track that we had originally planned for you.

What we didn't tell you was that some of us stuck around just to keep an eye on you. Then some of our travel agencies decided to put you on their tour maps (Ooooo look at the cute little humans). It was a lot of fun in the early days but as times changed and your abilities grew we decided to allow less visas for close encounters with humans (I mean, no offence but YUCK!).

Ok, so here's the deal. You guys have roughly 2.44 years to try and get your act together before we come for our visit. if you don't we will be forced to take away all of your cool toys and technology ( that's right, no more Iphones,cars or internet) and set you back on the right path. We will also provide teachers. Remember all of those natives in all of the countries that you stole? That's right, they still know how to live off of the land and how to give back. And they will now be your masters.

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07/05/2010 8:55 AM

I think the Devil is in a full control of our world in this bad days !!!!!

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07/05/2010 1:32 PM

Somehow I find this Douglas Adams quotation relevent.

There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory which states that this has already happened

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07/05/2010 1:45 PM

I am agree with you Apothicus, during the only last 20 years there was unbelievable tremendous advance in science and knowledge which is a clear prediction that the final end is around the corner.

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Ok,now I know the end is upon us. Someone stole another of my GA's.

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07/05/2010 4:40 PM

not so smart

That's just the giving and taking away thing. Not to worry my friend the last will come first. Its hard to teach a dog not to take what is not meant for him but it has been done in the past, never the less.

He, who puts him self above others, will be diminished. Educating a twisted mind is like unscrambling an omelet. Although frustration is part of every day life fear will nourish on the soul and consume it eventually, making the human being a puppet on a string.

Being governed by the laws of science is comforting. Being ruled by psychopathic superstitious overlords is a disgrace to the human race. Let them please them selves in their own time. If taking away a GA is what they wish to do turn you other cheek, end of sermon, Ky.

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07/06/2010 6:48 AM

ky

They have taken several away. I don't even know what I've gotten many of them for.If they all went away I would not suffer,rather I would go on making little or no sense as usual and giving a decent response at times(usually by accident).

I liked very much what you wrote and do intend to print it out and post it on a wall(not a bathroom wall either).

Thank you my Friend

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07/08/2010 7:37 PM

A team of evangelical Christian researchers say they've discovered Noah's ark near the peak of Mount Ararat in Turkey.

The group, from Noah's Ark Ministries International in Hong Kong, says its members "successfully excavated and ventured inside a large wooden structure" 4,000 metres above sea level.

Samples of wood taken from the structure were carbon dated to 4,800 years old, NAMI's website says, and Turkish government officials plan to apply for UNESCO World Heritage site designation.

"The structure is partitioned into different spaces," said one of the researchers, Man-fai Yuen. "We believe that the wooden structure we entered is the same structure recorded in historical accounts and the same ancient boat indicated by the locals."

According to many Christians, Noah's ark came to rest somewhere in Turkey. In the Bible, the ark protected Noah, his family, and a pair of each species of animal on the planet during a cataclysmic flood.

The researchers filmed one journey into the purported ship. A short video clip posted on their website shows several people wearing head lamps, descending into a deep crack in a glacier.

One member of the expedition takes a sample from what looks like a curved, wooden wall. Floorboards are dimly visible in another shot.

The team says they found the structure in 2007 and 2008, and returned with a film crew in October 2009.

"I saw a structure built with plank-like timber," said Panda Lee, a member of the group, speaking about an October 2008 expedition to the site. "Each plank was about eight inches wide. I could see tenons, proof of ancient construction predating the use of metal nails."

"I could see broken wood fragments embedded in a glacier, and some 20 metres long. I surveyed the landscape and found that the wooden structure was permanently covered by ice and volcanic rocks."

Doubt cast on 'discovery'

A report in the Christian Science Monitor has raised doubts about the finding however.

Dr. Randall Price, an evangelical Christian who was the archeologist for the Chinese-led team in 2008 when it made the alleged discovery, told the publication he has "difficulties with a number of issues" related to the announcement.

"If the world wants to think this is a wonderful discovery, that's fine. My problem is that, in the end, proper analysis may show this to be a hoax and negatively reflect how gullible Christians can be," he told the Christian Science Monitor.

In a leaked email from Price, he says he believes a group of Kurdish men may have hauled wood up the mountain and staged the scene for the team.

Price confirmed he wrote the email but wouldn't go into further details with the publication.

Secret location

NAMI has not disclosed the site's location, saying only that it's embedded in ice near the mountain's peak.

Some experts are skeptical about the finding. If the ark was deposited in Turkey, moving ice likely would have swept it away ages ago. Also, there is no evidence of a catastrophic flood in Turkey around the time that the Ark would have taken to the high seas.

The Hong Kong group follows in the footsteps of other explorers who claimed they had found the biblical craft.

In 2006, a team of Christian archaeologists said they had located a piece of rock in the mountains of Iran, which they thought was a piece of the ark.

In 2004, an American businessman and Christian activist claimed he had located the ark below the ice on Mount Ararat, using satellite imagery. However, the Turkish government refused to grant him a permit to launch an excavation

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