Theory or Personal Opinion

I think the first sentence is quite incorrect. For the second, it would be nice to see some alleged examples.

Well many examples there, 2 of them as sample:

1)Global warming theory.

2)Evolution theory.

I know that Global warming is fact, but what in not fact is 'theories' about the cause of the warming and all are not true.

About the evolution 'theory' ,it is a fake and superstition.

You should read Jerry Coyne's Why Evolution Is True, Sean Carroll's The Making of the Fittest, almost anything from Richard Dawkins, the www.talkorigins.org Website, and many other valid resources. As things stand thus far, you are one of the most sinfully ignorant persons I have ever encountered.

Yes, a GA for plugging Coyne's book. It's readable, clear, and balanced. A reasonable person will come away from that book convinced that evolution has been verified (Note I didn't say proved).

"you are one of the most sinfully ignorant persons I have ever encountered."

You could be the most stupid person in the world if believe what in those books.

Sir,

I must say that I have been wrong about evolution. Your very existence refutes all previous evidence of evolution's veracity. Alas.

I can see clearly the devil him self speaking.

Are you looking in the mirror, you coward?

Although I believe that Ragab1952 is a radical, I can at least temper what he says with the knowledge that he has registered and we can form an opinion about his beliefs because he isn't a coward and doesn't hide behind the (mother's skirt) Guest title.

This thread is in the tank.

lynlynch, i am not radical but simply i don't believe in the evolution theory at all or the books you referred to,all imagination lies and deception. If you believe in it that is your problem not me.

I am very logical and not radical.

Ragab1952,

I did not refer to any books. Nor did I express any opinions about anything other than cowardly Guests and the ignorance of the OP.

Others may have, but not I.

That is ok, but i am agree with th OP, in mathematics or physics,no theory is called theory unless it is proved practically and with experiments that it really valid , and do not come to me with your own theoretical thinking and tell me theory.

First it easy to insult some body hidden behind a "guest" mask.

Second if you believe in devil and do not believe in evolution it is your right but do not oblige other people to believe as you. Not accepting change is equal to regression and unfortunately a belief is many times a brake for progress.

We all learned, as engineers, sometimes the heavy way that in our profession we have to doubt and accept changes and avoid a unmovable belief.

May be according to your knowledge you cannot understand the evolution theory, may be this theory (although developed from FACTS) is not complete, may be you are too proud to think that you have an ancestor looking as an ape, may be you only follow the thinking of a person who convinced you, may be...

I want to mention that most people not accepting the evolution theory forget in their argumentation the very important factor : TIME! Evolution was a very slow process and even if you do not accept it there are directions where it manifests even today. Have for instance read or heard that bacteria become antibiotics resistant ? This is an evolution in the struggle for surviving. In the UK a moth changed the wing colour when coal was not burned as intensively as before. There are many other FACTS to support this theory but true scientist (which we are not since we are engineers thus an other breed) discuss some aspects of it. This is true science never be satisfied by what was obtained and try to do it better.

Of course for many people it is psychologically difficult to accept a continuous change, they need stability, and because of it are not able to accept and adapt to evolution.

We can discuss every thing at peace if we consider ourselves as civilised persons.

I would prefer to read a more unbiased discussion without aggressive comments and if possible without asking for the help of supernatural !

I respect your point of view 'nick name' ,but not agree with what you mentioned ' if you believe in the presence of the devil why you don't believe in evolution theory.'

First of all the evolution theory (which is completely wrong)denies the presence of God or Devil and the spiritual world generally.

If want to make sure that the spiritual world exists ,i would like you to see this video as simple example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXJLEyNuVfo&feature=related

No, that's wrong. The devil is part of evolution. Think about it. Investment bankers, the Cleveland Browns, and anyone who hates Thin Lizzie's music are all evolved from the devil. QED!

Funnnny as all Hell! LMAO - GA - Loupy

'The devil is part of evolution'

We can put it in a better way: 'Evolution is from devil'

But generally don't relay much on what the other say.

Thank you for the respect, I also respect other opinions and do not discuss their fate but I never made the statement you mention. Would you please indicate where I made it ?

And you are TOTALLY wrong, evolution does not deny the spiritual world.

Unfortunately it is wrong presented and because of lack of understanding wrongly interpreted.

Discussing evolution is a very sensitive subject because of that.

But as I wrote civilised people can discuss about every thing without insulting each other and making the right citations.

Hello Mr. Devil, it's so nice of you to inspire people to reject the theory of evolution which at least is backed up by strong genetic evidence to support it so that they will remain superstitious ignoramuses that you can corrupt to carry out witch hunts and what not.

Ironically enough, there have been members here who have literally proven evolutionary theory correct even though they reject it. I won't name names but I'm sure everyone here knows who they are. For example, there are some religious zealots here who condemn other members as sinners and heretics simply because the members they are condemning hold different beliefs from themselves. So how do these loonies prove evolutionary theory then? Simple, by spewing such bigotry and hatred, they have proven that they themselves are evolutionary descendants of devils, demons and other evil spirits.

is this the spanish inquistion?

I'm wandering ,if there is big skeptics about the validity of the evolution theory, why the schools in USA teach it and poisoning the children brain at that early age ?

Do you think you will have good new generation by this way ? i doubt that.

You're completely wrong about everything you've said yet.

Tell me, are these ramblings opinion or theory. Can you define the two terms?

Good luck pushing your opinions theories drivel.

The evolution thought is called 'theory' ,any proof that is wright ?

In my personal opinion it is really drivel and superstition ,and such 'scientists' spread such false ideas are tools on hand of the devil to deceive people believe it.

On the contrary. If anyone has been deceived, it is you.

He is not deceived , he doesn't believe in evolution theory.

What about you ,are you already deceived and believed it ? I want to appease about you sir.

What do you wish to "appease about [me]"?

"Many of today's scientists theories are not more that personal opinion and it is completely wrong to name it theory."

Is this your own opinion, or just a theory? - touche

Having proofs to back it up, but at times they do need conjecture when they don't.

Idea, hypothesis, conjecture, theory -- the words are sometimes used interchangeably. They shouldn't be, but few people get worked up about it. A scientists colleague's usually give him (her) the benefit of the doubt when he refers to his hypothesis as a 'theory' -- they may be in the same position some other day.

Even 'Laws' are sometimes subject to revision, i.e., the laws of Conservation of Mass and Conservation of Energy became the Conservation of Mass-Energy.

The OP does raise one valid point (even if the remainder is so far afield). 'Theory' is often used to describe a hypothesis which lacks the investigation required to rightly be called a theory. a simple distinction of prefacing 'theory' or 'hypothesis' with the term 'scientific' would help to clarify.

Now this is just conjecture.....but the mainstream public will never be brought into compliance on this usage issue.....if for no other reason than 'conspiracy hypothisizer' or'...hypothesist' is so much less appealing to say than 'conspiracy theorist'....

Theory: A well-tested concept that explains a wide range of observations.

EG: Theory of evolution, Theory of relativity

A theory does not need to be proven 100%. Over time, many theories that survive rigorous testing become, in effect, laws. The theory of evolution is a good example. Few sane people with a basic education think that the theory of evolution is wrong.

Many of today's scientists theories are not more that personal opinion and it is completely wrong to name it theory.

This statement is simply wrong, with no basis in fact.

Education is not a measure, many people with little education are much better than highly educated ones regarding the wisdom and logical thinking.

You're right . . ., if we were discussing wisdom. But, we're not; we're discussing knowledge and that comes from education, training, effort, and time.

Education is not a measure...

In this case education is a measure. An insignificantly small number of people who are educated in biology dismiss evolution as "just a theory" or "a hunch" or "just an opinion". On the other hand, people who are poorly-educated in biology specifically (or poorly-educated in general) are far more likely to think that evolution is just a hunch.

This Gallup poll showed that highly-educated people tend to favor the accepted scientific view of evolution, and that poorly-educated people do not.

In general, highly-educated people do better on tests of logic as well, with (for example) the Miller analogy tests often used as a predictive indicator of success in grad school.

There are few advantages to being poorly-educated. Living in ignorance is not really as blissful as it may seem, and many of the nations that are high on the happiness index have large percentages of highly-educated people.

These various denials of evolution are not only scientifically unsound; they are theologically unsound as well. Some versions of religion understand this correctly; many do not.

It is worth reading the Dalai Lama's The Universe in a Single Atom.

If you like to know more about spiritual world,you can watch a live program every week about bad spirits exorcism live by Father Makary from Cairo :

-Live from CAIRO Every Friday at 11.30 am US Eastern Time (New York time).

-Repeat Every Sunday at 5:30 pm US Eastern Time.

-Repeat Every Thursday at 9:00 pm US Eastern Time.

It is 2 hrs long, watch only the last 1/2 hr.

Whoopee--televangelism comes to Egypt. How long before they start handling snakes?

there's a glass palace that they can get real cheap.

Tornado ,unfortunately you don't know much about Egypt's church- established in Alexandria ,Egypt by st.Mark 2000 years ago , monks live in the deep desert in caves (without doors) with large terrible snakes with no hurt ,and those snakes and other desert brute animals live very friendly and peacefully with the monks .

I would like to invite you to visit Egypt to identify the spiritual life and monk-hood life there, or at least read about the history of Coptic church of Egypt and the great monk-hood life there.

BTW, Egypt is the birth place of monk-hood life in the world .

Don't waste much time with the evolution but read about the Coptic church history and monk-hood life there ,could be much more useful for you.

Regards

I am aware of a few things, including a bit of the Coptic Christian tradition. To name two items of interest: 1) the Coptic Bible incorporates more Books (96) than most other versions, and 2) the Nag Hammadi textual finds of 1945 are from Coptic history.

Sudan is partly Muslim and partly Christian. Some of the Christian influence, especially the older influences, would have come from the north via the Coptic Church. The more recent Christian influences have been from the south, via Christian missionary activity in other parts of Africa. This will play out soon in the referendum to divide Sudan into two countries. I don't know on which side of the line Umdorman/Omdurman would fall, though it is right across the Nile from Khartoum.

In the US, we have lots of "faith healing" TV shows inhabited frequently by shills; Fr Makary's performances look mighty similar. The Roman Catholic Church seems recently to feel the need for more exorcists; perhaps they can let out a training contract to the Coptic team.

I think all this nonsense is blasphemous, but my viewpoint is admittedly not well known.

The original language of the bible is Hebrew for the old testament ,and the old Greek language for the new testament and the two testaments together are called the Holy Bible. The old testament for the period before Jesus and the new testament started with Jesus time.

This Holy Bible is translated to more than 1000 language,and all the translations are exactly identical same as the original one whatever it is in English,French,Arabic,Russian,...etc, all the same identical with no any difference.

North of Sudan is Arabic speaking ,while the southern part speaks English and some other local languages.Omdurman is located in the northern part of Sudan.

I hope this information is helpful.

Regards

Just for accuracy's sake: part of the Old Testament is also written in Aramaic.

I am afraid that you are poorly versed in Biblical scholarship. The multiple translations of the Bible are most emphatically not identical from language to language, or even within one language. Indeed, religious history includes several persons gruesomely killed over allegedly incorrect translations.

Sinai Bible( was in st.Kathrine monastery in Sinai desert's mountain ) believed to be the oldest text , now housed in the British Museum.

Also the Alexandrian text is very old.

This website may be useful:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=219882

Regards