Free Electricity?

No. (And really never.)

Hi tornado,

In the solar system and the universe there is no visable source of energy input yet mass is in constant motion. In County Donegal Ireland (my back yard) there is a thing called the 'Cosmic Turbine'. Using a small amount of energy (2.5 kw) to set 1500 kg in angular motion at 750 rpm at radius of 1050 mm, 350 kws is being generated. The stunning thing is that the input energy of the Cosmic Turbine is being drawn from within itself at the fulcrum's resistance arm. WAW

I doubt very severely that you have analyzed this device'e operation correctly, whatever it is (which was poorly explained). And if it generates electricity "for free," why did you post your question in the first place? How much did it cost to build it, anyway?

The style of your writing conveys very little knowledge of physics, economics, or even basic concepts such as correct units.

Methinks he posted the "question" as a form of indirect spam for himself. He is the "inventor" of this device and apparently has applied for a patent for it in Ireland.

But the patent offices of the world are full of patents for unworkable devices.

Irish patent? waterproof teabags! Wouldn't buy the idea in the first place.

The universe if full of energetic reactions driving everything.

Read up on nuclear fission and see how a star changing one element into another produces tremendous loads of energy which is what in turn drives the clockwork of the universe.

Even on the lesser scale of things the natural act of molecules being broken apart and rearranged into different molecules gives off energy in what we know as a exothermic chemical reactions. You know, "burning fuel".

I generate it for free!

But my homemade wind generator and grid tie inverter cost me money to build though.

Sure -- wind power is free; dammed reservoirs provide free power; oil and coal provide free power; solar -- OH WAIT, unless you count the cost to build wind farms and connect them to the grid, build hydroelectric dams and connect them to the grid, harvest oil and coal and build power plants to use oil and coal; make the solar panels...

'There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.' -- Don't know who said that first, but Heinlein was fond of the saying; lots of others, too.

With wind farms you also have to add in the cost to the consumer of supply companies paying to keep the farms off line as they have enough spinning reserve. It costs more to take plant off line to absorb the capacity of the farms as and when it happens to be available.

Walking across my carpet with rubber or plastic soled shoes generates "free" electricity as an undesirable byproduct, but it's hardly useful.

Maybe it relates to this piece of drivel?:

One hundred thousand years ago a Caveman observed that a thrown stone always fell to the ground, and postulated that the ground mysteriously attracted the stone. One hundred thousand years later, and 315 years after Sir Isaac Newton published his Gravitational Force Equation, most People and Physicists still believe in this myth.

It is well known that charged capacitor plates exhibit significant "attractive" forces between the plates, this invention is just converting this available short linear motion to a continuous circular motion. The Energy for the resulting motion is derived completely from the Cosmic Flux Field; the Electrostatic charge of the Rotor/Stator is not depleted!

The Ney-Brainard-Ney "Cosmic Flux Field Theory", and an Algorithm for calculating CF Turbine Rotor Torque is presented; they explain most of the mechanism of the "Invisible Forces at a Distance" (Gravitational, Electrostatic, and Magnetic). The Newton/Coulomb form of "Attraction" Force Equations are a great oversimplification of the Fundamental Physical Phenomena; it generally disregards the specific Attenuation/Impact Force of the Cosmic Flux traversing matter, which is the basis of all Cosmic Flux Forces! The N/C Equation "blows up" to infinity when Centroids overlap and "d²" in the denominator is zero. The Cosmic Flux Attenuation/Impact Forces of the Cosmic Flux paths traversing the Stators and Rotor must be Vectorially integrated, this will result in a net torque on the Rotor. In cases of relatively small Spherical mass diameters, at Astronomical distances apart, in Vacuum, of course Newton's approximation is quite accurate. The subject Cosmic Flux Electrostatic Turbine is rejected off hand by "conventional wisdom", because each element of the Stator is perfectly symmetrical to the Rotor axis "hence no net Force/Torque can exist on the Rotor". This conventional wisdom completely disregards the Fundamental Physical Phenomena.

(From http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2004/0119375.html)

Nothing is free in this world even your coffin when you die.

Yes - If electricity is used without paying for it - generated for free!!!!

Hi Tornado & all ye other flat world BRAINIACS. What is OP?.

With all your fancy energy equations/phsysics laws/mathmatics etc. how come we still have the ignorant combustion engine poisining my air and zombying around at about 10% effiency? Coal fired power stations. Micro wind turbines that generate power when we don't need it? It's below freezing in Ireland to day and ther's not a breeze. The local hilltops turbines look like a scene from the crusifiction! DEAD STILL. Hallelujah! Wake up to the 21st century and higher human understanding of the natural world.

"Give me a leaver somebody said, and somewhere to stand and I will move your world"

Give me a GENERATOR, A CROWBAR AND A SLEDGEHAMMER and I will show you how to make it spin itself. But first let me show you how to reconfigure the generator to suit an Irish navy.

I understand the embarrassment and the snobbery of so called experts/acedemics when some simpleton like me comes along with a clear head and a free mind. In your own defence you will ridicul, insult condem, dismiss anything that shows ye all up for the ignoramises that you are.

Again I ask you to think about ENERGY ENERGY ENERGY as a seperate entity. It's the essence of all creation. We humans are creators. We can't see ENERGY we can only imagin it. We can control it, transfer it, convert it, exploit it, explode it, even trade it and only a few of us ever take the time to understand it. Our universities teach out dated preceptions of it from Newton's dark ages of ignorance. Laws of phsysics are applied to it which further confuses it's nature and beheavour.

In your arm, the average human has 200 lbs or so of push-pull-force-torque-NMs whatever. This is enough ENERGY to move the world when we use the simplest of all machines, the LEVER. The big problim is our 15% brain effiency, (like the combustion engine) we squander ENERGY because it's considered good economics. The same ignorant establishment that imposes CARBON TAX controls the education system.

THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING

My nicname is FLYWHEEL

"OP" is original poster. You in this case.

Good to see you're 'holding your own' and welcome to CR4, home of technical & shenanigans, Flywheel.

Well, that's a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing.

The top-o-the mornin to ya TORNADO, greetings from Ireland the land of Leprechauns and the centre of the Universe. Your insults are wasted on the likes of me, I'm immune.

In every international arena of human endeavour/achievment, the Irish dominate. When you do the maths, per capita, we're ahead by about 100-1 in wisdom/innovation/creativity etc. We don't follow world trends we create them. One small example: Sir BONO and SIR BOB did more for humanity in two decades than Jesus, all the Saints, Popes, and Polititions ever did in human history. They sing well too.

There are only two nationalities in the world. the IRISH and those want to be IRISH! We IRISH call our little Island CLOUD 9 because we are looking down on the world, not in an egotistical way but symphatetically. We banished human ego from our Island along with the British. Hopefully now you'll begin to see that idoicy is a blessing.

ENERGY my friend is free by it's nature but your primitive society needs the money, so you choose to make it a taxable comodity.

In Ireland we live in an ocean of ENERGY. We have Gravity, a constant force pulling us downwards. Only the simple minded can see that GRAVITY is reliable and always at our service/ disposal. We can measure it, predict it, redirect it and understand it. We can even convert it by rotating a heavy mass at high speed and creating infinitly huge centripetal forces.

The solar system is a big flywheel. The sun is the axil and the planets make up one magdaddy rotating mass on magnetic bearings. Speed, weight,ratio, proportion,radial, radius, magnetism and ballancing are so cleverly tuned it is mind bogglingly simple. The big bang cosmic magician fliked mass and ENERGY into perpetual motion and here we all are living in flywheel inertia. E=M and M=E, the C2 is only for making primitive bombs. Motion is the natural order of things. At partical/pinhead centre of heavy high-speed rotating mass (the sun) ENERGY is infinite.

Stop looking down Oil/Gas wells at the fossel remains of dead plants and animals. Yonks ago, Mother Nature buried these toxics deep down for a very good reason. Look up at the night sky and see if you can't make out the Cosmic Turbine, THE GRAND COSMIC FLYWHEEL.

Oil junkies, economic slaves, political morons and fire bugs, that's what's managing the world's ENERGY needs. A fire is for sitting around and warming yourself on a cold night and having the ouwl craic. Fire is for atmosphere and romance and sipping a good whiskey or GUINESS, like the Leprechaun's do, not for combustion ENERGY! Fear not! here comes Ireland to the rescue yet again.

Along with the global launch of the Cosmic Turbine we will be launching a treatment facility for the above mentioned offenders, help will be available for all combustion addicts.

The luck o the Irish to ya,

BIG WHEEL KEEP ON TURNING

"Along with the global launch of the Cosmic Turbine we will be launching a treatment facility for the above mentioned offenders, help will be available for all combustion addicts."

Sign me up... I've been looking for a retirement program where someone will take care of me when I am feeble. I was thinking of robbing a bank when I'm 75 so they lock me up and feed me for another 25 years, but your "combustion addition treatment facility" sound a little less confining, especially if you have cute nurses and plenty of beer (after all, it's not an alcohol treatment facility right?).

What a hoot--blarney to the max!

Illegal line taps are also free.

Yep. Loads of places have wind turbines and solar cells on their roofs.

Many bicycles have on-board dynamos.

Lightning!

You can do the Benjamin Franklin bit if you like PWS. I was in my local pub when all the televisions, sky receivers, jukebox, beer pumps, etc. all exploded. Thank god I was drinking real ale from hand pumps.

One good thing it stopped the bloody awful karaoke that night, I could stop for a few more pints instead of being forced out to escape it.

Good idea though, but I want to see the battery your going to store it in.

There are a few people researching lightning capture and storage, _{but I cba doing the homework for Lyn}

Electric eel or "knife fish" produces 500 volts and 1 ampere (500 watts).

Just like a battery which has stack of plates and electrolyte the Electric eels has 5000 to 6000 electroplaques, while electrolyte chemical action is precisely similar to a battery.

Salts in soil when add up with water form a week electrolyte to produce milli volt potential which causes enhanced rusting of buried metal structures which is countered by providing sacrificial anodes like in ships and reverse polarity impressed current systems like in buried pipelines.

I don't think lightning provides very much total energy (not in quads/year scale).
Even if significant, it is too dispersed to be easily collected.
Collection and storage equipment will be expensive.

Consequently, this form of energy will NOT be free, ever. The OP, of course, is not likely to address this matter cogently.

Right on all counts

yes, it is generate in various kind, but we can't utilise it.

1. by lightning

2. by tidal waves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windup_radio

Well if this turbine thing is so simple to construct and works so well how about posting some blueprints and schematics that any "common Irishman" could understand?

I was curious as to how you came to the conclusion Ireland is #1. All statistical measurements and official ranking systems seem to put it well elow the top 20, or far worse, in almost every category other than drunken delusions per capita.

I'd love to see that International DDC* rankings chart. Is there one just for the US that ranks by State too?

*Drunken Delusions per Capita.

check www.bloomenergy .com

I suspect you're referring to the so-called "Bloom Box". It's simply an expensive back-up generator. Just how expensive is answered by Bloom Energy CEO K.R. Sridhar in an interview with Newsweek, April 2010:

Q. Your capital cost is high, something like $7 or $8 per watt.
A. Right now we are only economical with subsidies.