At What Point Does Crazy Become The Norm?

Hahaha!

You cannot approach societal mores with a slide rule.

I would never seek to offend, yet I do not know you so I will tread as lightly as I am capable of.

These things vary from society to society.

Ear piercing may be one of the least mutilations world-wide.

Ear piercings from which you remove the ring frequently heal back up (mine did).

Having picked a wife to spend your entire life with, pick your battles careful

Best thoughts to you and yours

Emmett

Do you get your wife small shiny sparkling items to wear? If you don't then you will never understand. Why, it's a rite of passage for a little girl to get her ears pierced to become a big girl. Most likely your wife/mother of your daughter had here ears pierced around the same age. Mostly it's a rite of passage. Your best bet not to get in the way.

Good luck the pain don't last too long for your daughter. Your pain last forever though, your baby is growing up.

I know it. I'm fighting it with all I've got.

Don't get me wrong, Emily, (my daughter), is ready to go.

Oh well. It's a sad day, and I think I'm out of arguments.

I told my wife to go for it.

Just wait until you remember this ten years from now!

You mean when she's 14 and telling me to get out of her face when she's going on a date.

Can't wait.

Believe me. I'll be reminding the wife of those ear rings.

I would bet that you don't need to worry much about this, no matter which way it goes. Almost always, a girl with a great dad will develop good instincts. (No need to be too much of a fuddy-duddy, though. Pick battles judiciously.)

Oh, boy, are you ever in for a treat. It will start long before she's 14.

My first wife and I discussed this issue when our older girl was about 7. I agree with you, this is too young to be poking holes in yourself. She wanted the girls to get pierced then. I lobbied for, and all agreed to, thirteen. Becoming a teenager is a milestone, this will commemorate that in a substantive way, and it gave them something to look forward to that had a definite trigger date. I agreed I would take them myself and purchase the first pair.

However, I went on a hunting trip, came home to 8 and 6 year old girls both with pierced ears (as well as a swingset that I had absolutely put the skids on). Thanks mother-in-law, I appreciate your not meddling in our affairs.

So, it is what it is. <sigh>

I guess I'm a little old fashioned. Kids are already growing up too fast.

Have you seen any of these trash, kiddie beauty pageants? I know I may be a tad crazy, but I find these things repulsive. I did win that battle. Actually, the wife agrees on that one.

Tell me I shouldn't worry:

Wait... wait... I'm getting a vision.

I see... I see you future. I see... many sleepless nights. I see... no, I hear... I hear the car running; her car, for which she never has enough money for gas or insurance. I see... I see a trail of broken hearts... many boys I see as well, all with broken hearts.

Well, now that you've lost (in this case, giving in is the same as losing) you should flip the situation around and go get one of your ears pierced too.

You could go with your daughter and have it done at the same time. Or, don't tell them, just show up with a small gold dot in your ear. Either way, it would be a lasting memory for your family.

I think that's part of the problem. My wife asked me, 'what's your problem with pierced ears?'

Well, back in the mid 70s, my younger sister (2 years) and her cheer leader girlfriends talked me into piercing an ear. I said, "right on.......cool".

Being the big dummy that I am, I didn't realize that left was right and right was wrong, (gay). They pierced my right ear.

I went to school the next day feeling very cool.............everybody else was laughing.

And this is just one small part of the reason, that, not only do I not like piercing............I don't particularly care for people either.

And getting back to your title

At What Point Does Crazy Become The Norm?

about every generation

I remember when my family was growing up that I requested that they did not mark or ornament themselves in any way. To my way of thinking life was about solving problems and not about egotistical interactions, but I must admit to making an exception with ear piercing, my mother wore ear-rings, so who was I to say it was wrong?

Regards JD.

How about just saying "Yes dear, your right, I'm sorry". She won't know what hit her.

It's not a fight. I already did that.

When things get difficult, I always ask myself, ' What would Al Bundy do?'

That's what I go with.

At What Point Does Crazy Become The Norm?

When you become a parent _{^{get married}}.

Compromise

Have a tattoo instead!

GA Artsmith, I had not thought about China junk and metal allergies. Most of the jewelry I dabble in is sliver or sterling sliver. Best thing would be NOT USE ANY FILLED OR PLATED product in direct skin contact. As the plating can wear through with time.

GA from me too artsmith. I didn't realize that was a big problem. I told my wife about it, and fortunately she knows not to buy cheap ear rings.

She wondered why I brought it up, and I told her that I asked my CR4 buddies what they thought. She just rolled her eyes and doesn't seem to be concerned about what CR4 people think either.

Alas, the battle is lost. She got her ears pierced when she was 3, and she turned out alright. I guess I won't worry about it. It's a girl thing.

Of course, the little one doesn't know it yet, but if she ever comes home with a pierced tongue, lip, nose, eyebrow, or anything else, she will be locked in a cage in the basement until she turns 18.

7

Yep.

Not sure why they bring up the conversation when they know we've lost before we even know what we're talking about.

They like to keep you informed

pro forma

The term pro forma (Latin "as a matter of form") is a term applied to practices or documents that are done as a pure formality, perfunctory, or seek to satisfy the minimum requirements or to conform to a convention or doctrine. It has different meanings in different fields.

Some years from now you'll be a happy father if that piercing is the only "crazy" thing you"ll notice, so lighten-up. Think for example that those shiny adornments may (subconsciously) had an impact in your mood when you first met Mrs Kramarat. (LOL) S.M.

I'm hoping she'll change her mind. But she and the little one leave for CA on Thursday, where the piercing, (if it happens), will be done. She'll be with my in-laws. Her Dad is a retired surgeon, Mom a retired RN, sister is a nurse..................at least I'll know that the hygiene will be covered.

Meanwhile, I'll be on the home front in kitchen destruction mode.

They got back from CA on Tues. No pierced ears. My wife decided that it could be put off indefinitely. She sure is a smart gal.

actually, choose your battles more wisely.

or if you love attention, tell her your also going to get her a tatoo also. that'll also be another kind of excitement.

Nah, we don't really have battles. On things like this, I'll just tell her how I feel about it and leave it alone. It usually works out.

I just pointed out that, "Everybody else gets their little girls pierced", is not a good reason. They still sell clip on ear rings that work just fine for little kids to play grownup with.

what about the tatoo, aren't you mention something about that?.....