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To Find Center Of Gravity Of A Rickshaw

06/12/2013 8:05 AM

I know wheel base measurement and the total weight of the rickshaw. How coud I find the center of gravity of the rickshaw ? It is for SAE efficycle one

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06/12/2013 8:13 AM

Hang it from a piece of string attached near one end. Draw a vertical line on the rickshaw, projecting the line of the string downwards. Repeat with string attached near other end. CofG is where the lines cross.

You did say this is a 2d rickshaw, right?

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06/12/2013 2:18 PM

You did say this is a 2d rickshaw, right?

He wouldn't be able to get it in a Stamped Addressed Envelope if it wasn't.

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06/12/2013 8:55 AM

Assuming it is symetrical side to side.

You can fine the fore/aft position as follows.
Slide a long ladder under it front to back. Get two volunteers one lifting each end while you put a trestle or some such support underneath and adjust it's position until you get a rough balance.
Once you have the rough balance, adjust the ladder so that it sticks out equidistant either side of the trestle and then make an adjustment of the trestle position to correct for the ladder adjustment and to fine tune the balance point.
Repeat until bored or the pubs open.

To find the height of the C of G. Lie it on it's side and find it's ballance point on the trestle. (ladder use is optional) R4epeat for any axis of interest until boredome/opening time. The C of G will be at the intersection of vertical lines (real or imaginary) extending upwards from the points of balance.
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06/12/2013 12:06 PM

i was just designing the model in solid works and i dont have a prototype . i just have the wheel base and total load of the rickshaw . how to find the center of gravity

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06/12/2013 4:15 PM

Wouldn't the designer know how to find the CG of the item they are designing?

Oh, never mind. YOU ARE the designer.

Build a prototype and test it.

Otherwise, you may have to resort to taking the advice of people who know less than you do about the design.

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06/19/2013 4:02 AM

So, it would change depending on how many people were sitting in it, their size(s) and shape(s), then?

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06/12/2013 9:22 AM

Use a spring scale to lift the handle. Call that weight Rhandle. Measure the horizontal distance from the center of the wheels to the handle. Call that L. multiply L by Rhandle and divide by the total weight to find the horizontal distance from the center of the wheels to the center of gravity.

The vertical distance is more difficult.

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06/12/2013 12:06 PM

i was just designing the model in solid works and i dont have a prototype . i just have the wheel base and total load of the rickshaw . how to find the center of gravity

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06/12/2013 12:43 PM

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You're going to have to assign materials to each part. If the materials you're using aren't in the Solid Works data base you will have to create them.

Then do the mass properties. That will give you a Center of Gravity with respect to the assembly origin.

You can always create a new origin and do the calculation around that origin.

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06/12/2013 1:09 PM

Use Solid Works.

There! Problem solved!

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06/12/2013 6:24 PM

Just use the mass properties command. SW will do all the work for you.

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06/12/2013 11:01 PM

I use Auto-Cad since 20 years , I have no plan to switch to SW.

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06/13/2013 7:42 AM

If you wanta do it in AutoCAD, just convert the views into REGION and use MASSPROP on the region.

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06/12/2013 12:09 PM

Actually, there is another thread on here that says the CG is in a doughnut donut.

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06/12/2013 12:53 PM

CAD <groan>... slaps virtual head with paw.
Design the damn thing so you can adjust it's c of g!
Grrrr ftz hissss.
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06/12/2013 3:28 PM

Assuming that it is a hand pulled one.
The center of gravity can be shifted by lifting or lowering the boom or by the runner moving forward or backwards. The ideal position would be close to directly above the axes of the wheels.

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06/12/2013 11:04 PM

Nice way to save money and energy.

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06/12/2013 5:47 PM

In many drafting programs, you can assign a material (and its density) to each piece in your rickshaw. Then, the program can calculate the CG for you. You can do this yourself, of course, assuming the rickshaw is symmetrical from side to side:

Pick a point along the length of the rickshaw. Measure from that point to the estimated CG of each component in the rickshaw. Call that dimension D. For each component, multiply D by the component's mass. This will produce a fake moment for each mass. (For a real moment you'd need a force rather than a mass.) Sum all these moments. Divide this sum by the total mass. The answer will be the longitudinal location of the CG.

If so inclined, repeat in the vertical direction.

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